Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Horrid Henry (TV series) episodes


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The result was   keep. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 14:15, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

List of Horrid Henry (TV series) episodes

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Unsourced; therefore unable to self-demonstrate its own notability. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi  16:16, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete as simply fancruft, Since all this is on a Wikia there's no need for it here. – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  16:26, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - I admit I was perhaps hasty with the above, It seems some episode lists for programmes are fine, and others aren't .... I also feel if we delete this we may aswell delete every "List of X Episodes" article on this project... All in all has pretty much changed my mind. – Davey 2010  •  (talk)  15:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep - This seems like a hasty deletion nomination. The TV series obviously exists and is based on a series of Horrid Henry children's books. The franchise even spawned a feature film. That the episodes aren't sourced is a different matter entirely and has nothing to do with notability. Per MOS:TV articles about TV series are expected to have episode lists. Whether they are incorporated into the main article, or if there are enough episodes to warrant a List of... article is a matter of bulk. If the nominator wishes to challenge the notability of all things related to Horrid Henry, that's a different matter. If the nominator believes the list of episodes should be merged back into the article, that's a different matter. But if the notability of the subject isn't in dispute, that notability isn't temporary and should also carry to this list of episodes. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:53, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment The argument above seems to amount to 'if it's on TV, it's notable and gets a list', which I'm not sure I buy. The usual notability requirements have to be met, both for the show, and the episodes. Nwlaw63 (talk) 21:10, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, I think you are oversimplifying my argument. My main point is that the nominator's rationale is wrong. List of episodes articles exist as a clerical matter--they're usually spun off the main article when the section gets too long, otherwise, they are expected per MOS:TV. If the nominator thinks the episode article shouldn't exist, their best argument is, "There ain't enough content here to warrant a unique article", in which case, they should argue for the content to be merged to the main article. Notability is a different issue entirely and should be treated as such, since a "List of" article is entirely dependent on the notability of the main subject. We don't suddenly question the notability of a SpongeBob SquarePants episode list simply because it might be unsourced. SpongeBob is notable, his show is notable, and an episode list for the series is an expectation per MOS:TV. If we're going to delete, we should delete for the right reasons, which in this case seems to be whether or not the Horrible Henry franchise is notable. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:40, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I understand, and I'm not voting here. I'm speaking more to whether the show itself is notable, which may be debatable (the sourcing appears thin, though I haven't looked at it too deeply). But I get your point that if there's an issue with the notability of the show then it should be brought up on the show page rather than the episode page. Nwlaw63 (talk) 04:30, 4 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. A quick Google search provides enough evidence that the TV series meets notability requirements, finding reliable sources.  And per Cyphoidbomb, just because the "List of I Love Lucy episodes" page isn't currently sourced properly doesn't mean it should be deleted.  The episodes themselves are perfectly fine references for basic information like episode titles and writers/directors, per WP:PSTS, and a secondary source is not needed.   --  Wikipedical (talk) 17:18, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep - since we have an article about Horrid Henry (TV series), and the list is too long to be a useful part of the article, it should be kept as a serparate page. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 18:24, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - this is pretty standard stuff on wikipedia. A list of episodes of a children's program surely meets notability requirements. I didn't check but it probably sells on dvd also. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:07, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.