Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of House (TV series) cast members


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus for deletion. Please take discussions on possible mergers and redirections to the Talk page for this article. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

List of House (TV series) cast members

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Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate list of information. Kariteh 21:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect/Merge to House (TV series)--JForget 22:38, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect/Merge to House (TV seies), As an independent article no way.. If the writer wants to do an episode by episode sub-directory in the main article that shows each cast member all the power to them. Callelinea 22:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.   -- Bduke 23:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP is not a directory Corpx 01:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep or Redirect/Merge, because concerns popular, prominent show. -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 01:55, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge or Delete Looks like a directory to me. Doesn't add any real information... Looks like a credits list, really. OSbornarf 03:25, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep this is NOT what categories are for. Over at CFD we spent months working on getting all the cast member categories listified.  During discussions, we assured the people who maintained the categories that no information would be destroyed when the categories were removed and more detailed information could be added to the lists.  PLEASE! don't delete these lists.  If you do, people will start recreating the categories.  This information makes much more sense as a list than as a category.  I think it is impractical to say that cast lists should not have any home on Wikipedia.  People will continue to add this information faster than we can remove it.  Let it exist on lists.  That is the most appropriate form this information can take. -- &#x2611; Sam uelWantman 06:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * So, this stubby, random directory list should exist because there is a risk that people will create some inappropriate category elsewhere? I didn't know that it's how Wikipedia functions. If a category exists and shouldn't, it has to be deleted, that's all. Just because it can be tedious to do it repeatedly doesn't mean we have to violate WP:NOT and create a random directory list just to avoid this problem. Menace and risks of users doing this or that are irrelevant arguments. Kariteh 08:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No need to catalogue minor character actors. The main cast are listed on the main article for the show.  Listing the rest of the cast is what imdb et al are for. JulesH 08:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - As the information exists elsewhere, I see no reason why this page should not be deleted. However, I very strongly oppose turning this back into a category.  See Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 25.  Using categories for cast members became a nightmare, as actors may perform in up to one hundred films and TV shows during their careers.  The resulting block of category links at the bottoms of the articles for some actors became very difficult to read and use for navigation.  Turning these lists back into categories would be highly disruptive.  Dr. Submillimeter 08:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and do not categorize This is notably different from voice actors, since a role in this series will almost certainly result in a link, making the list superfluous. Circeus 09:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Turn into category — Will work better as a cat. Matthew 12:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Do not categorize Cast lists should almost never be done as categories. Leave either as a list article or merge the cast list into the main article for the show. See WP:OCAT for why cast lists should not be done as categories. Dugwiki 15:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge and redirect to the show article or a list of show characters. Since all-capital-letter links to a particular essay and certain policies seem to be all the rage right now in WP:AfD, let me say that WP:JUSTAPOLICY is no more a valid argument than WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Simply stating that something is an "indiscriminate list" or a "directory" does not make it so. Nobody has presented any valid argument as to why a WP:LIST of WP:NOTABLE cast members in a WP:NOTABLE television show, which is WP:VERIFIABLE and WP:ATTributable to WP:ReliableSources, is WP:NPOV and not WP:ORiginal research, would be considered an "indiscriminate list" or a "directory". A cast list is a well-defined, finite, list, which is a perfectly valid criteria meeting the WP:LIST guidelines, as typically television actors are notable for the very reason of being in certain notable television shows. And cast categories are usually not appopriate for the very good reasons given in WP:OCAT. Furthermore, "delete and merge" is not a valid argument either, as deletion of the history of merged content violates the GFDL by destroying the attribution required by that license. DHowell 02:19, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.