Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Irish French


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Fabrictramp |  talk to me  20:43, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

List of Irish French

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This list is unlikely to ever be completed, and is already covered by a suitable category. Fribbler (talk) 15:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 03:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  00:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ww2censor (talk) 03:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.


 * Delete, cosign nom. Y5nthon5a (talk) 04:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment But, I must say, that many lists on wikipedia should be deleted, then, because there are many lists that are uncompleted on wikipedia. I CHANGE my opinion to Keep.. Y5nthon5a (talk) 04:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete It is already covered by a suitable category. The list is inappropriate. Masterpiece2000  ( talk ) 04:48, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, redundant to a category — if someone is not notable enough to have an article, they should not be on the list, therefore the usual arguments and pointers to WP:CLN don't apply. Stifle (talk) 09:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Neither reason provided for deletion is valid. Many articles are open-ended by their nature and categories have not superseded lists. Colonel Warden (talk) 11:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete mostly unreferenced list which if the unreferenced portions were removed would leave a list of one. What is the criteria for inclusion on this list? Do Irish French Americans get to be included? Or Irish people of French decent? etc. Category would seem to be the more appropriate way to go for this sort of thing. Jasynnash2 (talk) 12:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It is easy to reference these entries as I have just demonstrated by referencing the first. Such considerations are not a reason to delete per WP:IMPERFECT. Categories are less satisfactory in this respect because they cannot be referenced with citations. Colonel Warden (talk) 12:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * But surely we must have a policy/guideline about adding categories to things "properly" i.e. being able to show the facts of the matter? If I'm wrong than fine and we should find a way to fix. I still don't believe the article should be kept as inclusion on the list would seem pretty "ambivilent" (may nto be precisely the correct word). I suppose the criteria for inclusion could be discussed more fully on the talkpage. Jasynnash2 (talk) 12:48, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:CAT says Categories appear without annotations, so be careful of NPOV when creating or filling categories. Categories that are not self-evident, or are shown through reliable sources to be controversial, should not be included on the article; a list might be a better option.. So, it seems that a list is the correct choice in this case. Colonel Warden (talk) 13:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That does it for me. Weak Keep based on the above. Although someone that knows what they are doing should get to work adding to the list and referencing it. Oh, and making the criteria for inclusion more obvious would help Jasynnash2 (talk) 13:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete per nom. We're going overboard with these lists. Somebody needs to do something about the growing British-Foo lists too. Bulldog123 (talk) 19:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Category provides verifiable coverage. This is just an unsourced redundancy. A list is correct choice if there is controversy, but assigning nationality should be done on the subjects page. List makes it much more difficult to ensure entrants are verified.Yobmod (talk) 11:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete just like List of people of mixed Korean and Russian descent nomination.--Finalnight (talk) 18:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.