Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Irish politicians


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Invalid deletion rationale. v/r - TP 02:38, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

List of Irish politicians

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Out of date, difficult to maintain, no addition to list since at least Jan 2010, a properly maintained set of the data can be found in Category:Political office-holders in Ireland Rye1967 (talk) 19:13, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Being out-of-date and difficult to maintain are not valid reasons for deletion. ALL articles are "difficult" to maintain. The arguement that the data can be found in a category fails WP:CLN. This is a notable list of notable individuals.  Lugnuts  (talk) 19:41, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - As someone who has edited this article frequently in the past, I had to eventually had to give up. The scope of the list is too big, it is impossible to maintain, I know I tried! It's all very trite to say keep it because all articles are difficult to maintain, the fact is that NO-ONE is maintaining it. The intro says it is supposed to cover all "public-representative office-holders in Ireland, elected and appointed since 1918 up to the present day, in both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. The offices covered are TDs, MEPs, Presidents, Councillors, MPs, Stormont MPs, Members of the Sunningdale Assembly (as Mem.NI.Assmb), MLAs, Senators, Commissioners and Members of the Irish House of Commons (as Mem IHC). Holders of other offices, such as Kings-representative (i.e. Governors General) or historical offices such as High King of Ireland are listed in the Others section." Wow, that's quite a list then. I haven't seen other countries maintaining huge lists of all offices holders for several centuries.


 * The main article should point to Lists of party politicians or List by office. The all-inclusive list is a legacy of the days when there was very limited coverage of politicians, but as coverage grows it cannot possibly accommodate all the types of office-holders it seeks to include. The complete list would probably have well over 5,000 entries, which woukd be utterly unusable. I think that a list-of-lists structure is probably the best we can do, as with List of Australian politicians and List of German politicians examples. Snappy (talk) 21:57, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment:Since no party lists exist, I support renaming it to List of TDs and setting it as redirect to Members of the 31st Dáil. A quick look at list of German politicans shows that suffers from the same 'no-maintenance' issue.  Created enthusiastically in Apr 2009, loadsa redlinks or no-links, and no significant changes since (List of Natzis is the exception).  Not expanded following the Sept 2009 Federal elections. The german version points to the Kategorie: instead. --Rye1967 (talk) 13:02, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with that proposal. Snappy (talk) 19:39, 8 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:36, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:36, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:36, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. The question of whether this should be subdivided into a list of lists should be discussed on the article talk page, but I'm sure that any reasonable outcome of such a discussion would not involve turning this into a red link and deleting its history. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:46, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.