Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Irish supercentenarians


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus was to keep (citing WP:LISTN). (non-admin closure) --  Dane talk  04:13, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

List of Irish supercentenarians

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The list is very short and has no standalone notability per WP:LISTN, therefore falls under WP:SYNTHESIS and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. The oldest known Irish person, Katherine Plunket, has her own article. The next two, Margaret Dolan and Mary Ellen Geaney, are not notable, and died too "young" to be mentioned in any of our other lists such as List of the verified oldest people. Finally, people listed in the section about emigrants and who are "old enough" are already mentioned in the American, British and Canadian lists of supercentenarians, including their country of birth. Accordingly, we won't lose any relevant information by deleting this list, a legacy from GRG overreach. — JFG talk 06:12, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per the detailed nom. Listcruft, fails LISTN. --Randykitty (talk) 07:21, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:30, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:30, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep: Is this an less notable a list than all the other similar lists found in Category:Lists of supercentenarians by nationality? Ok, it's short but at the time these people were born, Ireland only had a population of around 3 million. What do you expect for a small country with a small population? ww2censor (talk) 10:56, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep This, along with all the other by-country lists, is a split-out of List of supercentenarians by continent, to prevent that article from becoming too large. Such split-outs do not require the standalone notability of WP:LISTN as long as the "parent" list meets the guidleine. UnitedStatesian (talk) 11:41, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * What? So a bunch of non-notable oldsters from a random country deserve a list here because a much broader general list on the subject is notable? That doesn't follow. Also, where are the reliable sources to show this is notable? The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 01:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - there seems to be an assumption that anything to do with the GRG should be deleted. There were several similar ill-considered noms at cfd recently. It is hardly WP:SYNTHESIS or WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Oculi (talk) 16:38, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - there is ongoing war against any articles on Wikipedia relating to longevity. Why would this information be a cause of such angst to people? If other countries have similar entries, why should Ireland not be allowed to have the same information available? Crveni5 (talk) 02:10, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per the nomination. There are almost no sources about supercentenarians in Ireland, just a list of names from one database. Every reference in this article is either a GRG page or something about British supercentenarians, demonstrating the lack of notability for this subject. Plus, there's the simple fact that not a single person on that list was born in the country of Ireland; everyone there entered the world while Ireland was part of the British Empire, even if their departure was after Ireland's statehood. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 15:45, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per UnitedStatesian Spiderone  21:25, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep There would be issues with creating article on each of these names but a list is justifiable as it meets LISTN. Kaweendra (talk) 16:59, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per UnitedStatesian. Also I don't see anyone proposing to delete/merge the List of Finnish supercentenarians, even though everyone on the list was born when Finland was part of the Russian Empire. Spleodrach (talk) 17:23, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:WAX. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 01:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per UnitedStatesian. --Comment by  Selfie City  ( talk about my  contributions ) 22:55, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep The list is indeed a bit small, but I am unsure about merging, the UK article has the potential to grow a lot more and this information would be better separate in the long run. Garlicolive (talk) 02:53, 12 April 2019 (UTC)


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