Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Ivy League university presidents


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete. I am not seeing any deletion argument that is soundly based in policy. The nominator suggests "Problematic article that should be deleted and broken up into its component parts". This presents licensing issues as described at WP:MAD. "Delete with mergers or the creation of new lists as warranted" as proposed by User:Crazypaco has the same problem. I am persuaded by User:Milowent who says this is "an organizational dispute about where to include the various president lists" and this is effectively endorsed by User:DGG. The way forward is to take the discussion to the talk page to decide what to do with the content. After appropriate merging the existing page can be converted to a disambiguation page or parked as a sub-page somewhere to safeguard the attribution history, again as talk page consensus decrees. TerriersFan (talk) 21:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

List of Ivy League university presidents

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Problematic article that should be deleted and broken up into its component parts. First, there's nothing significant about being an "Ivy League president" that is distinct from being President of X University. Second, the Ivy League is a sports conference. Third, the Ivy League didn't exist until 1954, why are there president dating back to the 17th century? GrapedApe (talk) 02:03, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Universities for the opinion of the WikiProject Universities. --GrapedApe (talk) 02:05, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete with mergers or the creation of new lists as warranted. - Six of the seven universities, I believe the exceptions being Penn and Dartmouth, already have existing lists of their historic heads of their university as either a separate list article or as a component of another article. As Penn and Dartmouth do not appear to have this, they should have their tables broken off into separate lists or merged into existing articles as do the other schools. I don't see the need to duplicate the existing lists. Are all academic and athletic conferences and consortiums to have similarly duplicative lists? It seems superfluous. CrazyPaco (talk) 02:26, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 14:42, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 14:42, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:58, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 17:12, 27 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per CrazyPaco above or redirect to Ivy League. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jorgath (talk • contribs) 18:07, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Retain and Protect Obvious historical significance of the individual and collective chains of leadership leading to their convergence in 1954.
 * Comment: Why is this at AfD?  We aren't going to delete the content, its just an organizational dispute about where to include he various president lists.  If we want to split it up, that's completely reasonable.--Milowent • hasspoken  03:05, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep obviously encyclopedic content; the question of how to present it is secondary and need not concern us; if we did split, this would still be useful for to use as a sort of disam page, for people who might be searching for Ivy League presidents.  DGG ( talk ) 02:17, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.