Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of James Bond films with synopses


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. James Bond (film series) (now) has the same content.  Sandstein  16:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

List of James Bond films with synopses

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This is a redundant list, see List of James Bond films Lithoderm (talk) 23:18, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment List of James Bond films is a red link. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 23:21, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I meant James Bond (film series), which redirects from List of james bond films Lithoderm (talk) 23:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 23:24, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, I haven't even finished creating it yet (OK now I have), and it's already proposed for deletion. Attempts to incorporate synopses into the James Bond_(film series) article were rather unfruitful, because they were placed (by me) in the table that included box office reciepts. Films with rather Byzantine plots (notably The Living Daylights) always got a bit too long making the chart there a bit unsightly. Most users were Ok with them, but one fellow working only from an IP address twice reverted by doing a whole article reversion that simultaneously reverted dozens and dozens of other legit edits. The first time I undid his work, I pleaded to remove synopses only and not undo. This is actually rather hard to do given that they are table entries. The second time he tried, he on pass 1 got rid of all synopses except for View to a Kill and instead of removing this, once again did the date revert which undid well over a week of lots of other good changes not only by me but by "Chris42" (an excellent editor) and others.

We do in fact have separate articles with lists of TV episodes such as "list of doctor who episodes" "list of Seinfeld episodes" or "list of Star Trek comic books". I think if the box office figures are not in the table, a similar tabular list of Bond films with short synopses is viable. It's the squeeze in the table created by box office figures combined with the difficulty of summarizing more Byzantine films like Octopussy and The Living Daylights which seems to be the source of the problem.

--WickerGuy (talk) 23:32, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Better of course to find a better solution to incorporating short synopses into main article or perhaps just give up on synopses altogether. But we just can't provide any editor with the temptation to remove them by reverting several days of other legitimate changes!!!!

--WickerGuy (talk) 23:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: Can you not add synopses to James Bond (film series)? From what I can tell, film series articles usually cover the films' synopses very briefly.  Can the same not be done here?  There doesn't seem to be a need to have a separate article. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 23:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, that's a thought. However, it would at this point have to done separately from the table with box-office receipts for all the reasons detailed above. Box office receipts plus films requiring longer plot explanations make table ungainly which tempts one miscreant (well-intentioned) editor to revert whole article to before addition of synopses undoing many other excellent edits. Clearly, it just isn't going to work putting synopses in the film table with box-office receipts. We could put it at the bottom. The lists I appealed to "lists of Seinfeld episodes" etc. are all much much longer than this list (over 100 Seinfeld episodes- only 22 Bond films), so it's perhaps not a good justification.

--WickerGuy (talk) 01:02, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm, how about creating a table solely for box office performance of the 007 films? See Spider-Man (film series) as an example.  That would allow you to use the table under development that can identify the films, their synopses, and the actors and directors.  It would require some fairly large changes, but I think it would be better for the long term if the synopses belong on James Bond (film series).  Some editors may be adverse to just having an article with mostly plot detail, so if the rundown neighbors real-world context of the film series, it would not be as disputable. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 01:16, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

We think alike!! I've already done just that before I read your message. See James_Bond_(film_series). If this change stands, then we can of course delete the article. Note incidentally that the article proposed for deletion currently does not have a link to it from any other page (except my "My contributions" user page of course).

--WickerGuy (talk) 02:40, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks like editors/users Chris42 and Alientraveler are quite happy with the new arrangement, so it looks like this really can be deleted. Apparently, I can create articles but can't destroy them. --WickerGuy (talk) 10:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment List of James Bond films with synopses? None of those films had synopses, although I believe that there might have been one hidden inside a cigarette case in The Spy Who Loved Me  Mandsford (talk) 13:34, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete since synopses have been implemented in the film series article. Article title does not seem like a redirect worth keeping. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 17:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment List of James Bond Films might be a good redirect, however... 216.54.198.18 (talk) 02:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.