Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Japanese sex terms 2005


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus. RasputinAXP  c  15:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

List of Japanese sex terms
This article has been nominated before (see archive here). The result that time was to keep, but there were only 7 votes, two against, and the vote lasted only a few days.

This article is simply a list of words in Japanese for things/sexual activities for which there are (in nearly all cases) already words in English. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Exploding Boy 05:22, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information BigDT 05:55, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * For the record, my vote is obviously to delete.  Exploding Boy 06:16, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - This 'article' is utter junk and should have no place on Wikipedia.ShizuokaSensei 06:38, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete junk.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 07:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep links to several articles and thus serves as a useful, informative index for anyone interested in sex in Japan, Japanese pornography or anime. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 07:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment: doesn't link to many articles, and some of them are useless (and currently up for deletion). Also, there's already a category that covers the ones that are useful.  Exploding Boy 07:35, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I clicked on a few that were long and valid; lists can be more informative than categories, and for a person unfamiliar with Japanese culture this one would be. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 07:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a peculiarly-narrow translation dictionary. -- GWO
 * Keep per CanadianCaesar Jcuk 08:27, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. 'List of Words about X in language Y' articles are unencyclopedic, IMO. --Squiddy | (squirt ink?)  10:04, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Lots of people are interested in Japanese views of sexuality. JeffBurdges 11:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * That might be true, but this list provides no further insight into Japanese views of sexuality than asking a high school student to list all the rude words they know. There is very little, if any, information which is unique to Japan, so all it boils down to is a list in the vein of: "This is how you say 'picking up girls' in Japanese". Anything unique to Japan should be, and probably is, addressed elsewhere in proper depth.ShizuokaSensei 11:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

To the people who are arguing to keep because "people are interested in Japanese sexuality": as an analogy, consider that we have an article on Bonsai, but not a List of Japanese gardening terms. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so we have articles about many subjects. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, so we do not have lists of words in different languages. &mdash; Haeleth Talk 15:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Informative; coverage of these topics in the few words that have articles of their own would be incomplete.  Smerdis of Tlön 13:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete and sow the earth with salt. Fails WP:NOT, as it's just a list and can never be more than a list, of terms that belong in a massage parlour dictionary. Vizjim 14:10, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, listcruft. --Ter e nce Ong 14:45, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - I see no reason to delete this particular list. Metamagician3000 14:54, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is no more a dictionary now than it was last time.
 * Delete for one thousand years of pain. There is already a Category:Sexuality in Japan and if it needs a main article (it does!) it should be Sexuality in Japan, not an indiscriminate list of sex terms. &mdash; AKADriver  &#x260E;  16:11, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. If it's true that dictionary definitions are not allowed, it should follow that lists of dictionary definitions should not be allowed. Brian G. Crawford 16:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, or merge into Sexuality in Japan once it exists. It is a useful list, and most of them do not need their own page (see previous nomination), so a category is not sufficient. Rigadoun 17:04, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * If there is enough interest for someone to write Sexuality in Japan then they will need more content than just a bunch of Japanese sex terms; if they do have that content, then they will easily regenerate the terms listed. I see no point in keeping this page just in case someone ever writes that page. Paddles 15:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep per CanadianCaesar Evan1975 19:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * keep please this list is useful and important too Yuckfoo 19:55, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to Wiktionary (if they'll have it), but whatever is done with it, delete from here as nn list of words. User:Zoe|(talk) 20:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. This article has decent info... that exists elsewhere already.  I really can't see this article improving, unless it is trimmed down to those terms that have articles on their own (but then, there's the category system for this).  Wikipedia is not a dictionary is policy, and I just don't see this article being an exception for any reason.  Mango juice talk 23:04, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per CanadianCaesar. I agree that Sexuality in Japan is needed as well or to replace. - CNichols 23:34, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Links to our articles on the topic so clearly useful for people that are interested in the Japanese approach. -- JJay 23:35, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Out of all the entries I would say no more than two or three give insight to the Japanese approach to sex, and the ones that do (love hotels, hostess bars etc) already have their own articles. I fail to see how this site provides anything other than a "how to say words in Japanese" guide, which may or may be accurate as it's entirely unsourced. ShizuokaSensei 23:53, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions.   -- ˑˑˑ 日 本 穣  Talk to Nihonjo  ε  23:47, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Transwiki as a Glossary to Wiktionary. ˑˑˑ 日 本 穣 Talk to Nihonjo  ε  23:47, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to ENGLISH wiktionary - per 日本穣. -Kunzite 23:55, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete and write a proper article on the subject, this is just a slang/foreign dicdef list. -- E ivindt@c 00:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's a list of words. What's the point, exactly? WP:NOT a list of dictionary definitions seems to be exactly on point here. Fagstein 01:59, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to the Japanese Wiktionary. Stifle (talk) 11:06, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or Transwiki. Nothing more than dicdefs. Paddles 15:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or Transwiki, assuming that these terms aren't already in the Japanese Wiktionary. Fails WP:NOT.  Slightly offended that someone tried to use WP:CSB to support keeping this the last time around.  ergot 15:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I realy see no need for them to go into a Japanese dict. They need to go into the English dictionary as some of the have migrated over into the english vernacular and into certain sub-cultures with the recent wave (past decade or so) of Japan-influenced media in the west ... --Kunzite 00:44, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a three or four or five of them, from the entire list. Exploding Boy 04:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete, but if Sexuality in Japan is created, then merge into that article instead of deleting. -Sean Curtin 03:24, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, passes WP:NOT, includes a variety of encylopedic topics which have articles, or might be searched for. Kappa 07:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per Kappa.  Grue   09:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Paddles, Mango, Haeleth. Kuzaar 14:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * KEEP it serves as a useful glossary for the overly "nipponized" articles that are in Wikipedia. 132.205.45.148 02:18, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per others. Arbusto 02:33, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:NOT and WP:ENC. Wikipedia is not a dictionary of entirely unreferenced sex terms in a non-English tongue. — Encephalon 05:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge into the future Sexuality in Japan. &mdash;M e ts501 talk 15:42, 13 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.