Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Japanese titles of foreign films


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The result was delete.  Singu larity  01:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

List of Japanese titles of foreign films

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WP:NOT indiscriminate information. The same reasons as my previous afds at Articles for deletion/German names of English movies and Articles for deletion/Comic book names in Finnish both resulted in unanimous deletes. Saikokira 23:58, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment based on the unanimous outcomes of the two articles you note in your nomination note, future desired deletions of this class of articles could be started via the WP:PROD path, particularly if this article is also deleted unanimously. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 00:46, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I did like the idea of Napoleon Dynamite as "Bus Man", but that can go in the Napoleon article. In this case, most of these are not variations on the original title; the few that are can go into the article about the individual movie. Mandsford 00:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete In previous AFD's the main argument has been that lists such as this violate WP:NOT. My argument is slightly different as I see this as only borderline indiscriminate &mdash; the scope is defined though broad.  I would argue that without thorough sourcing, one cannot determine which line items are original research (i.e. a translation by an editor) and which are legitimate.  The article author has noted on the talk page also "Actually, since I just realized that this informatin can usually be found by searching the English title in the Japanese wikipedia, I've pretty much decided to abandon this page."  This brings up the notion that where the Japanese title for an English film is documented in the article about the film, one could create one or more redirects tagged with Template:R from alternative language to achieve a similar end on the English wikipedia (search with a Japanese title and find the English). --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 00:43, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per the well thought out rationale from Ceyockey.  Adrian  M. H.  23:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, but with a Comment Don't sprain your arm patting yourself on the back if you get a third straight unanimous vote. It has nothing to do with your persuasive abilities, only how people reviewing the article today feel.  And as to the next person, there's no such thing as "this class of articles" that can be exterminated without a vote.  Every article is entitled to an independent review.  In this instance, I don't see anything added to mankind's knowledge by showing the closest English phonetic equivalent of Japanese katakana.  It implies that Orientals can't pronounce "Austin Powers", so they "have to" say, "Oo-su-tin Pa-wa-a-zu".  We're no dumber just because we pronounce Tokyo "TOE-KEY-YO".
 * Comment PROD is for non-controversial deletions; that fact that three very similar articles have been deleted by unanimous consent over a period of time suggests (but does not prove) that deletion of additional closely related articles will be non-controversial. In a PROD, any editor can over a five day period come in and say 'hold it buddy - no way are you going to drop this without a discussion' - it's easy to put the brakes on the process.  What I've found is a flaw of PROD is that most editors who nominate an article for PROD do not inform the major contributors, which is not good as PROD's are not monitored nearly as closely as AFD's.  There's nothing wrong with using the PROD process judiciously and correctly. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 02:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Honestly totally unencyclopedic. Really? All other scripts soon? Bulldog123 05:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions.   -- Fg2 10:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment — This list could be based on information from the Japanese Wikipedia's ja:年度別日本公開映画 (Nendo-betsu Nihon-kōkai-eiga "Lists of movies shown in Japan by year"), although that list is not complete either. It is particularly interesting to see how foreign movies titles were translated into Japanese over the years, and so this list could be truly interesting to have.  For example One Hundred and One Dalmatians translated into "101匹わんちゃん大行進" (Hyaku-ippiki Wanchan Daikōshin "The Great March of the 101 Doggies") in 1962  (later shortened to 101匹わんちゃん), while 102 Dalmatians translated into "102" (Wan-ō-tsū "One-O-Two" (in English)) in 2001 [].  The earlier translations were more creative.--Endroit 16:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as listcruft. While the list is well-defined, it is unsourced, of questionable application, and appears to have been created just for the sake of having such a list. Stifle (talk) 21:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Project-ify by moving it to a subpage of WikiProject Japan. That's about the only place where it would be useful without violating policy as it could be used as a reference to help find the Japanese titles if there are no interwiki links on a particular movie. Once moved, the cross-namespace redirect could be deleted, of course. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:01, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


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