Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jennifer Lopez live performances


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I am closing this discussion in the context of similar results at Articles for deletion/List of Charli XCX live performances and Articles for deletion/List of Mariah Carey live performances (2nd nomination), which were held concurrently to this discussion. The participants in these discussions identified WP:LISTN as the relevant notability guideline for list articles, and the editors who offered analyses of this subject in the context of LISTN have agreed that the article should be kept. Mz7 (talk) 00:38, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

List of Jennifer Lopez live performances

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This is a very niche topic that only hardcore fans would be interested in. It lacks sufficient clarity or context and therefore fails to meet notability according to WP:NTOURS. The artist's page already provides a summarisation of Lopez's live performance history. Wikipedia is not a indiscriminate list of information nor is it a place for fancruft or fansites. It is also highly unlikely that users would know to search for this page. → Lil- ℧niquԐ1 - ( Talk ) - 22:43, 16 May 2020 (UTC) → Lil- ℧niquԐ1 - ( Talk ) - 22:43, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  → Lil- ℧niquԐ1 <small style="color:#1CA9C9">- ( Talk ) - 22:43, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:37, 16 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nomination.TH1980 (talk) 00:52, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

RedRiver660 (talk) 18:07, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge as per WP:NTOUR "Sources that merely establish that a tour happened are not sufficient to demonstrate notability. Tours that cannot be sufficiently referenced in secondary sources should be covered in a section on the artist's page rather than creating a dedicated article."


 * Keep or redirect. I honestly forgot that I created this page. It should be expanded yes, but it shouldn't be deleted. There are plenty of similar articles that exist for other performers, such as List of Justin Bieber live performances, List of Demi Lovato live performances, List of Rihanna live performances and List of Taylor Swift live performances, which is where I was going with this article. I think that it should be redirected now since yeah, the article isn't fully completed, but it could be in the future. — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 00:04, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment, nominator's reason for deletion is that this list doesn't meet WP:NTOURS, and? this is a list, the relevant guideline is WP:LISTN ie. are there sources that discuss this group/partial group of entries/ does the list "fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes"?, not whether each tour has received significant independent coverage. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:50, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, The title and the subject do not meet notability. Alex-h (talk) 11:40, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. I agree with Status, per the examples he used in his comment. Once expanded, this article can clearly satisfy the Wikipedia criteria. — Tom (T2ME) 15:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * comment these articles add nothing that isn't already listed elsewhere. → Lil- <b style="color:#1CA9C9">℧niquԐ</b><b style="color:#126180">1</b> <small style="color:#1CA9C9">- ( Talk ) - 17:19, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Might as well be true, however, they do keep those performance summarized so people don't have to jump from an article to article when they want to check out where/what the artist performed.— Tom (T2ME) 17:27, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You could say the same thing about discography articles. What is the point of them if the information exists elsewhere? And besides, a lot of the shows mentioned here are not mentioned anywhere else on Wikipedia because they were one offs. Also note that List of Madonna live performances, a similar article, is a featured list. — Status  ( talk  ·  contribs ) 17:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:39, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: Nominator's claim that this is "a very niche topic that only hardcore fans would be interested in" sounds like WP:IDONTLIKEIT. People are interested in the history of popular music and live performance. The other claims presented in this discussion seem contradictory: the information isn't important enough to include, but it's also included in other articles for some reason. If it's "highly unlikely that users would know to search for this page," then that's a problem that is solved by the many links to the page. — Toughpigs (talk) 22:46, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per reasons above. List easily meets WP:LISTN. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 13:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


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