Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jews by country


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was rename an edit for transparency of lists. mikka (t) 03:32, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

List of Jews by country

 * del misleading title and extremely POV content: a single Jew from each country is listed. mikka (t) 19:04, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * redirect a good idea. mikka (t) 03:32, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename to List of Countries with Jews (if we don't have a similar list). The examples are not POV- they look like they were selected completely randomly- and can and probably should be removed. -- JJay 20:02, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * You probably have in mind template:Jews by country. "completely randomly" - hardly the author rolled the dice. mikka (t) 20:27, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think the list is good, but needs info like population figures, length of Jewish presence, etc- obviously the token Jew approach is not the way to go (although the Harold Pinter/Bob Dylan coupling is funny). -- JJay 21:47, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Population numers, etc. are in yet another table, in Jews by country. I posted the proposal to merge the two, see Talk:Jews by country. mikka (t) 03:42, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'm a bit confused now that I've seen the list below. Wouldn't it have been easier to just redo the present list, instead of creating a new one? Or did you only create that list based on the voting here? Because the problem is once the present list gets deleted, your new list qualifies as a re-creation and thus a speedy delete. -- JJay 02:18, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Hmm, I didn't notice that the Lists one was that new, but I don't think it would qualify as re-creation because it is a list of lists (and the lists it includes have been around for sometime) so it's not technically the same content. However, it would have been a lot easier if mikka had simply edited the current one and renamed vs. creating a new one and putting the old one up for AfD. -- JLaTondre 02:26, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I guess you are right. I think mikka saw the need for this list based on the voting and decided to create a new one without the names. -- JJay 03:23, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
 * You are right. Without names and with clear intro and with trasparent links, without unnecessary piping that confused me. mikka (t) 03:45, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. We have al kinds of lists, why is this one wrong? This list just points to more comprehensive lists. Sebastian KesselTalk 20:31, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Changed my mind after mikka pointed me to an article that I've never seen before. Sebastian Kessel Talk 02:03, 25 December 2005 (UTC)


 * And you probably have in mind this one, which offers a clean and transparent navigation. mikka (t) 20:33, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Lists of Jews by country. This duplicates what is already done much better there. -- JLaTondre 02:13, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

I have to confess I introduced a confusion here, because of my misunderstanding. I created Lists of Jews by country by myself after User:JJay pointed to my misunderstanding, that the discussed article was in fact "List of Countries with Jews". What I did I wrote a clear intro describing the purpose of the list and made it transparent. And then I noticed that the discussed article does the same, only in a peculiar manner. I didn't notice that that the links to lists are piped: ( list ), and they simply slipped from my eye because of the random list of names, and I was overfixated on its POV. 03:32, 25 December 2005 (UTC)


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