Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of KCC Conventions by Year


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. NSL E (T+C) at 05:12 UTC (2006-05-25)

List of KCC Conventions by Year
This is too specialised. It should be on the KCC official site with a link from Katoomba Christian Convention. Wiki isn't a handy substitute. Tyrenius 16:09, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, unencyclopedic. --Ter e nce Ong 16:31, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete So very unencyclopeic. -- Kicking222 17:27, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep I only started the list 15 hours ago! The reason I started the list is that the official site doesn't list all the conventions - they only maintain a rolling calendar. A list of topics and speakers, as well as the number and type of convention is part of the history of KCC and demonstrates its health/weakness over the years. I would think a list such as this would be a valuable part of the encyclopedia's coverage of this important part of Sydney evangelicalism. (more on talk page) Journeyman 05:18, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I suggest that you analyse and describe the KCC's health and weaknesses in the article. (more on talk page) Tyrenius 09:49, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. Listcruft in the making. Zaxem 06:22, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete potential listcruft. Commentary about KCC's health/weakness over the years could be interesting but would most likely count as WP:OR, and in any case would belong in the KCC article itself. If the author hosted a site containing this content then I'd be ok with it as an external link from the KCC article, but I don't think it belongs in WP itself. Paddles 16:12, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think the list of conventions and commentary on its health would be OR since it would be drawn from published material: the official convention history, advertisements, newsletters, conference handbooks, etc. Journeyman 01:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I conceed. This has been my first deletion debate and I've learnt some new terminology (cruft, listcruft, vanity, notability, etc.) and also a lot about the purpose of wikipedia to be an encyclopedia (I'd always thought wikipedia would grow into an omnipedia). Thanks especially to Tyrenius for explaining stuff to me. Although I would maintain that the article meets at least one of the Importance criteria, namely #1.

I have a back-up of the article. What's the next step? Journeyman 23:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I would suggest expanding the Katoomba Christian Convention article along enyclopedic lines. Study articles on similar subjects to get the idea and look at Featured articles for the highest standards. Also best not to include empty lists for future filling out. Put in the info that exists. Tyrenius 14:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.