Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of King County Metro bus routes


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. General consensus to keep. (non-admin closure) sst✈  00:57, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

List of King County Metro bus routes

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Wikipedia is not a travel guide. This article is almost entirely a copy of the list of routes provided by King County Metro. On top of that, this article is a massive chore to keep up to date and requires that someone inputs all the route changes every 6 months. Also it's not a great guide for anyone planning to take a trip on a bus in King County. Readers still need to head to Metro's website for timetable information and to see a map of where exactly the route operates. I recommend we delete this article and similar lists across Wikipedia. --RickyCourtney (talk) 00:44, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  /wiae   /tlk  01:17, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions.  /wiae   /tlk  01:17, 21 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep there are 43 articles listed at Category:Lists of bus routes in the United States, not counting subcategories. I'd rather see the proposal to "delete this article and similar lists" discussed at the appropriate project to demonstrate consensus, or lack thereof. The argument that it's hard to keep such articles current is not compelling and could be easily refuted by active editors. – Brianhe (talk) 02:01, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. I'd like to see some discussion about the similar lists over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Buses (which is kind of dead), especially given that one of these lists (the SF one) is a FL. There is merit to keeping a list of routes and their termini/destinations, given that they (normally) have permanence and are notable in their own right sometimes (see the MTA routes in Baltimore; some bus routes in Seattle could warrant that kind of treatment).  Sounder Bruce  03:12, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  Musa  Talk  04:08, 21 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment I got the idea for deletion after reading Articles for deletion/List of TriMet bus routes. Just because there are other "List of [Agency] bus routes" doesn't mean that they should all exist. Anyway... I could go either way here. I was just hoping for some census before making the changes involved with the massive upcoming March service change. --RickyCourtney (talk) 19:34, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge as appropriate to King County Metro. Fails WP:LISTN. I found no significant coverage of this set of bus routes. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't valid in this case. Some bus route lists may be notable, some may not. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 21:09, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - it's quite normal for Wikipedia to have coverage of this sort. See Bus routes in London, list of Toronto Transit Commission bus routes, Green Line Coaches, etc. Blythwood (talk) 12:24, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Does not violate NOTTRAVEL, though "guide" parts may need to be cut down. Lists of bus routes are not non-notable. epicgenius (talk) 16:49, 27 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.