Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Las Hermanas episodes


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Las Hermanas (TV series). Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:44, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

List of Las Hermanas episodes

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No need for a separate article for episodes, when Las Hermanas (TV series) isn't a big article to begin with TheHotwiki (talk) 14:08, 10 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 00:43, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  Sennecaster  ( Chat ) 14:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  Sennecaster  ( Chat ) 14:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.  Sennecaster  ( Chat ) 14:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment You nominated the article for deletion three hours and 36 minutes after it was created. You could've just redirected it, or tagged it with a merge discussion banner.  Please close this and do a merge discussion.  Or contact the guy who created it and ask them to just post the information in the article instead, then tag it for speedy delete.   D r e a m Focus  15:10, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. A merger discussion is a better option and more necessary than taking it to deletion. The nom must've been insecure whenever someone created a separate article for a list of episodes. He could've let that be for a week or a couple of weeks before taking it for a merger discussion. I wouldn't mind if this was created. SBKSPP (talk) 06:03, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge to series for now, if everyone else wants to create more work for this editor. List of episodes aren't always needed for single season shows, but this one appears reasonably well sourced and in line with what we accept from other shows. If the show bombs, then sure, it can be merged back into the parent article, but this seems, per DF, to be premature. Jclemens (talk) 17:37, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge Episode list can easily be incorporated into the main article, which will avoid WP:FORK issues. MrsSnoozyTurtle 07:52, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Jclemens's argument. Since this was created 3 weeks after its premiere, it's not WP:TOOSOON to create a separate article for an episode list like this. SBKSPP (talk) 01:44, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per reasons above. I created the list on the 3rd week of the series' airing and it was even reviewed a few hours after it was created. It seems to be well-sourced. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 13:15, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You were told before not to create a separate article for episodes, when the article for the series isn't that huge to begin with. You can see how short the article for Las Hermanas (TV series), and you could have created a section in that article for the episodes there. Which you obviously didn't even try to do. Why do you insist making a separate article for episodes?.TheHotwiki (talk) 13:25, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * , it's no big deal if an article for a certain series isn't that huge to begin with. Besides, this is a weekday series, not weekly. It has no fixed number of episodes. Therefore, it's never (will never and still never be) a sin to make a separate article for episode lists for such. I created the list on the 3rd week of the series' airing since I believe there would be enough sufficient sources by that time. Even if you throw hissy fits about separate episode lists all day long, I really know when to (and not to) create one. So, don't bother arguing with me. My "keep" stands no matter what. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 05:08, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Again, you are making a separate article for episodes when the article for the series, isn't huge to begin with. The series haven't even had 300 episodes and yet, you already made a separate article. You have done this in plenty of times to a lot of Philippine TV series,and some of those articles were merged into the article of the series. And you choose to do this again. Also, the references in the article are mostly first party sources.TheHotwiki (talk) 05:28, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * , like I said, it's NO BIG DEAL if I create a separate article for a certain series. Even a user created several episode lists way before I stepped into this. I see nothing wrong with that. So, even if you throw hissy fits about it all day long, it will never be a big deal at all. I can merge them only when it has reached at most 40 episodes. There is really nothing wrong with creating a separate article for a certain weekday series. Everyone, including me, has the right to do so. I really know when to (and not to) create one. And it's true no matter what. So, BE IT. This conversation is over. I'm not gonna waste my time with this useless argument ever again. My "keep" stands. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 10:24, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Its a big deal, when an article for a series is small, for a separate article for episodes to be created. I'm not asking to you understand, as frankly you just ignored what I told about you many months ago. It is also the main reason why I nominated this for deletion, rather than talked to you about it again. TheHotwiki (talk) 11:34, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Can I also point out, that, have made an list of episodes article for To Have & to Hold (Philippine TV series) and The World Between Us (Philippine TV series) recently - List of To Have & to Hold episodes and List of The World Between Us episodes. The article for those shows are also aren't long enough, to warrant a separate article of episodes.TheHotwiki (talk) 11:47, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That's right. Who cares if it's a small article to begin with? If it is announced that it would have 40 episodes or less, it's pointless to create a separate one. But in this case, it's way too early to tell when the series will end. With the factors you mentioned, I definitely agree that there's nothing wrong with creating a separate article for episode lists like this. So it's pointless to make this a big deal. SBKSPP (talk) 06:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I suggest you two read Article size. A lot of these list of episodes specifically for Philippine TV series, got away in having their own article, when the article for the parent series isn't a long article to begin with. A Wikipedia guideline for article size wasn't made to be ignored. TheHotwiki (talk) 07:02, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Will do. But I believe Astig has read that before. SBKSPP (talk) 22:17, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I doubt it. He/she could have made a section for episodes in Las Hermanas (TV series), instead of creating a separate article for episodes right away. This could be said to other articles he created (seen from his or her user page).TheHotwiki (talk) 00:26, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Don't doubt. As of recent, he never created a separate episode list for GMA shows right away. I don't see him do a separate episode list for a weekend show like Puto (TV series). I agree with him that it's not a big deal. Nothing good will happen if you make that a big deal. I see no problem with what he's doing. So you have no choice but to let that user be. SBKSPP (talk) 06:29, 28 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete More than half the references in the article are facebook references.   scope_creep Talk  09:19, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
 * In fact only three references out the 37 are valid, reliable sources. It is a case WP:TNT.   scope_creep Talk  09:24, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
 * 3 reliable sources is enough to keep an article. bop34 • talk • contribs 13:44, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:51, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per ScopeCreep; not only stop with the Facebook references, but stop using Nielsen ratings not provided by a reliable source! It is copyright infringement (the Facebook page's description reads "NOT THE OFFICIAL PAGE OF AGB NIELSEN", and we have no idea how they get the numbers). I don't know how many times I've told this to the Filipino side of WPTV, but we've already been down this road with Nielsen a few times before, and eventually they're going to contact WMF legal again and say they've had enough.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 21:51, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment Copyrighted ratings are now removed and are not to be re-added in either this or a merged article without a proper official source. I think many of us who spend hours writing articles and copyright have had enough of forum and Facebook-sourced items which are of small interest to begin with such as nightly television ratings.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 02:32, 29 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge to Las Hermanas (TV series), which is presently a stub article. This will improve and expand this suggested merge target article. North America1000 23:12, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Las Hermanas (TV series) per North America. This information would be happiest if kept together. BD2412  T 01:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge per Northamerica1000 and BD2412. Based on nom's initial reasoning, this should have been a merge. Other TV episode pages are tagged as needing references, but they are not up for deletion. Heartmusic678 (talk) 11:11, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: The size of the article that is proposed to merge into is irrelevant. Just because an article is small doesn't mean we should start merging other things into it. bop34 • talk • contribs 13:45, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to Las Hermanas (TV series) and get rid of the unreliable sources.-- Mike 🗩 15:10, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Strong delete: per nom. — Ctrlwiki  • talk  • 11:16, 10 December 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.