Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Leaders in Panzer General II


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus. Seraphimblade Talk to me 09:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

List of Leaders in Panzer General II

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Wikipedia is not a player's manual. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 05:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * KEEP - the article author has clearly marked the article as under construction (with the underconstruction template), and the last edit to this article is only 6 days prior to this nomination. Furthermore, the main author of this article is also the main author of the "parent" article Panzer General II, which, according to the article's talk page, is also still in work. - NDCompuGeek 09:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * And? The fact that it's new doesn't answer my objection -- that it's not the proper subject of a Wikipedia article.  --Nlu (talk) 09:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * delete as part of the non-notable slew of fictional characters from one movie. /Blaxthos 09:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Um, this is from a game, not a movie.... You might be referring to others of Nlu's AFD campaigns. - NDCompuGeek 09:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom - Ozzykhan 19:00, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as excessive level of detail of interest only to players of the game. This is not a brief overview that helps readers understand why the game is of interest (such material, if it were present, should be merged to the parent article about the game).  Wikipedia is not a rulebook, a game manual, or GameFAQs.  See the guidelines in the computer games WikiProject, or the analogous guidelines in WikiProject Board and table games.  Barno 19:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I see the game guide portion (which refers specifically to tutorials) in WP:NOT, but could you point me to the section that indicates Wikipedia could not include information similar to a game manual? It seems to me that if the information attributable, is not covered in the game's actual manual, and is useful to players of the game, then it does not fall under the "indiscriminate collection of knowledge" section. Is there something I'm not seeing here? Rwhealey 00:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I did write this article, so I'm a bit biased, but I think that this provides valuable infromation to a player of the game, and is not an attempt to be a game guide. The article is well-sourced, and uses a number of sources that were very difficult to find, out of reach of most players. I intend to expand the article as well as the main Panzer General II, hopefully explaining all the technical game terms. Furthermore, a google search for Leaders in Panzer General II returns 274,000 hits, while Leaders "Panzer General II" returns 729. These "leaders" were an important selling point for the game, and were even shown on back of the game's box. Rwhealey 02:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:FICT point 2, which allows "lists of minor character, concepts, and places" (paraphrased). Even if this article should not exist as a stand-alone list, it should be selectively merged into another list or into the main article (with less detail, of course).  However, that's an editorial and content organisation issue which I won't bring up here.  -- Black Falcon 20:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.