Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department officers killed in the line of duty


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Similar lists should be considered on their own merits. The consensus is to delete this list. Eddie891 Talk Work 22:32, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

List of Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department officers killed in the line of duty

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Wikipedia is not a memorial site, nor does it publish lists based on non-encyclopaedic cross-categorisations such as "list of x who died in circumstance y". Much of this list lacks inline citations and is supported only by the three general references, two of which are unreliable self-published or user-generated sources and one of which is a primary source. There's no indication that the subject of this list "has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources" as required by WP:LISTN. (Contested prod) – Arms & Hearts (talk) 22:31, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 22:31, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete Subject fails WP:LISTN, WP:NLIST, and WP:LISTCRITERIA. That there are ROUTINE media reports about Sheriff's Deputies being killed on duty, not a single one of those slain is notable nor, does it seem, that there are sources that discuss this cohort as a phenomenon. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 23:00, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete for reasons of WP not being a memorial site, and other reasons mentioned above. Balle010 (talk) 01:24, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTMEMORIAL and WP:NOTDIR. We should also consider similar natured articles such as: List of Baltimore Police Department officers killed in the line of duty, List of Philadelphia Police Department officers who died in the line of duty and List of Los Angeles Police Department officers killed in the line of duty. Ajf773 (talk) 02:42, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep I'm tempted to vote delete and not fall to the WP:OSE fallacy, but we do have an entire category here at Category:American police officers killed in the line of duty. So, what do we do with:
 * List of Baltimore Police Department officers killed in the line of duty
 * List of Philadelphia Police Department officers who died in the line of duty
 * List of Los Angeles Police Department officers killed in the line of duty
 * Batmanthe8th (talk) 05:08, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If this discussion results in a consensus to delete I intend to look over the other similar lists and nominate those with similar issues (which I expect will be most of them, if not all). The category only contains five lists of this type though (this one, the three you listed, and List of Honolulu Police Department officers killed in the line of duty); most of the articles in the category are about individuals or their deaths. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 10:10, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * There's also another 10 articles at Category:Lists of police officers killed in the line of duty which would be affected by a consensus agreement that lists of police officers who have died in the line of duty are non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations. Surachit (talk) 04:05, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Kind of sad to see these go, but if that's the consensus, it looks like we just have to follow that. Batmanthe8th (talk) 18:32, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It's possible that some of the others might be better merged or dealt with through some other alternative to deletion. It's also possible that some of the others might, unlike this one, meet WP:LISTN. But I've yet to look at any of them in any depth so couldn't say one way or the other. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:15, 15 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete This clearly runs afoul of not memorial. At absolute best we can include the number on the article on the LA Sheriff's department, and maybe name any who have in any way received a little recognition (such as having a school named after them), there is no justification for this list.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:14, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete These were private individuals and I see no encyclopedic value in listing their names and causes of death on Wikipedia. The topic of officers getting killed in the line of duty can be covered in other appropriate articles. -kyykaarme (talk) 09:25, 13 September 2020 (UTC)


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