Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Lutheran schools in Australia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was No consensus --Haemo 00:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

List of Lutheran schools in Australia

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Wikipedia is not a directory. Information is covered in the relevant state lists. Twenty Years 12:03, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions.   -- Twenty Years 12:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 13:32, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. Unencyclopaedic list which seems to be an indiscriminate collection of information. &mdash;Moondyne 13:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete A mere listing without context, although an article on Lutheran education in Australia with this information included may be useful. -- Mattinbgn\talk 22:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT and WP:N - outside South Australia, Lutheranism is not a major denomination, and nearly all of the schools are and will always be redlinks as an article would violate WP:N and possibly WP:RS. Orderinchaos 03:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment agree that the redlinks should turned into plain text if kept. Not too OT I hope, but Lutheranism does have some presence in other parts of Australia.  Transmigration from South Australia to the Wimmera and interestingly to the south east corner  of the Riverina has made Lutherans reasonably numerous in those areas.  Direct migration from Germany to Queensland, particularly the Darling Downs, Lockyer Valley and the Burnett has also seen Lutheranism take root there. -- Mattinbgn\talk 04:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete although an article on Lutheran education would be valuable. Capitalistroadster 03:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 05:34, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge relevant sections into each state/territory list to indicate that they are Lutheran schools, also as names are often commemorative indication of location in S/T is also of value. I have done this at the List of schools in South Australia -- Paul foord 09:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Lutheran schools are a recognised category of independent school in Australia and have been considered a category for the purposes of at least two research papers at a significant Australian University. The Australian Bureau of Statistics also collects statistics based on this category.  The list therefore satisfies WP:N and should be kept.  I have added an introduction to reflect this. Somebody might wish to rename the page after the debate.Assize 07:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Lutheran schools follow Lutheran school standards and can therefore be compared in that way. Parents interested in sending their children to Lutheran schools would find this list a useful tool, and usefulness is a proper argument when discussing a list as opposed to an article. If we're going to have a Wikipedia, then we're going to want to navigate it, compare articles within it when they are comparable, and allow readers to focus on particular sets of articles -- meaning that this list is encyclopedic. This list is better than a category because red links will show whether or not Wikipedia has an article on a particular school, and since school names tend to be rather exact, the red-link feature is particularly useful for school lists. Additional information can always be added to items on a list, helping to identify the school, its location (also extremely useful for parents) and such information as what grades are covered or whether or not the school is just a high school or also a middle school or even an elementary school as well. Noroton 17:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * PLEASE SEE: Articles for deletion/List of high schools in Victoria For some reason, the Victoria list hasn't received the same attention from editors that all the other Australian school lists have in these deletion discussions. Please take a look. Noroton 18:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, this list does not contain any information that a category wouldn't be able to. Would support the creation of a category hierarchy for this, as well as for a general article on the Lutheran education system within Australia.  Lankiveil 05:13, 22 September 2007 (UTC).
 * Keep, it is useful for navigation per Noroton, and can be embellished with ABS data per Assize. John Vandenberg 13:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Wikipedia is not a directory. Twenty Years 13:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.