Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Macedonian Patriotic Songs


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The result was   delete. Tan     39  00:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Macedonian Patriotic Songs

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The individual songs may be notable but the list incorporating these songs is not. The songs seems to have been hand picked by the author of the article with no verifiable or notable connection to each other. May not be appropriate per Lists (stand-alone_lists) and per WP:NOTDIR. If the author of the article is the one composing the list based on each song's individual content rather than an existing publication with such a list, it would also be a breach of WP:SYNTH since the author is reaching a conclusion that is not backed up by any sources rather the author comes to a conclusion by putting together different sources. SWik78 (talk • contribs) 14:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Ughhh, thanks for spotting this additional piece of cruft. Delete, just like the similar Yugoslav Patriotic Songs I nominated the other day. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:41, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I happened to notice that was the author of Yugoslav Patriotic Songs and Macedonian Cross, both of which you nominated for deletion. I happened to find this one right listed on his user page. SWik78 (talk • contribs) 14:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Macedonia-related deletion discussions.   --  Beloved  Freak  16:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: Besides all the arguements given, we have no idea that these are patriotic songs instead of just songs about a region. Patriotic songs should bring forth and build feelings of national pride and are used to assert nationalism. Descriptive songs about a beautiful homeland are just that -- descriptive songs. Nice to sing, but not significant. Ron B. Thomson (talk) 21:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Evil Spartan (talk) 00:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete - I agree that this has all the makings of WP:INDISCRIMINATE. They might attempt creating a category. LonelyBeacon (talk) 04:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge this list into Music of the Republic of Macedonia and source the section or entries properly. The comment by Ron B. above: we have no idea that these are patriotic songs instead of just songs about a region. Patriotic songs should bring forth and build feelings of national pride and are used to assert nationalism. Descriptive songs about a beautiful homeland are just that -- descriptive songs. Nice to sing, but not significant. is problematic in this discussion.  Is this a reliable, sourced definition of patriotic songs or just Ron's POV.  I would consider America The Beautiful a patriotic song, but I guess Ron wouldn't.--Mike Cline (talk) 11:40, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


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