Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Major League Rivalries

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The result of the debate was keep. Sjakkalle (Check!)  11:02, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

List of Major League Rivalries
Delete. POV. Edit. Add: So-called "rivalries" are mainly for the fans. MLB players are usually professional enough to keep their cool and just play the game, while the fans can get out of hand. There are no "official" listings of MLB rivalries. Some of the "rivalries" listed in that "article" are not even in the same division or league. The rivalries are from a fan's point of view. Much of the "rivalries" posted in Wikipedia were made by an anonymous user. The following articles dumped the rivals section that were once part of the articles: Rivals Discussion on New York Yankees Talk Page Rivals Discussion on Boston Red Sox Talk Page Rivals Discussion on St. Louis Cardinals Talk Page To further point out POV, users on the Toronto Blue Jays Talk Page and Chicago White Sox Talk Page question the rivalries. Another user on the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Talk Page points out that one of the listed "rivalries" is "junk." Win777 14:55, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Doesn't seem terribly POV to me. --Scimitar parley 17:16, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, I do not see any POV at all. Plus, though MLB may not "official" sanction it, the fans are into it and sometimes, the rivialries will have an occasion fight or two. Plus, the Yankees/Red Sox rivalry is a classic, came into full force in 2004. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 17:29, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * And don't forget 2003. -R. fiend 20:46, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Zscout370. …Markaci 2005-07-20 T 17:57:00 Z
 * Keep User:24.171.36.233 as there is nothing wrong with the page.
 * While I think there is certainly room for a list of (and articles on) the major Major League rivalries, I can't really be too sure of everything in this article, as I'm unfamiliar with it and most of the links are red. I'm also not sure if it's best to put the long standing rivalries alongside a single series. Nor do I know what the Bill Buckner Rivalry is, or what could be in such an article that isn't already covered at Bill Buckner. So I guess this vote is a keep and cleanup. -R. fiend 20:46, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree, it should be cleaned up. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 20:46, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * The "Bill Buckner" rivalry is Mets/Red Sox, in reference to the '86 World Series and his famous blooper. It isn't so widely used, but it is immediately recognizable to any fan of the two teams. Xoloz 03:53, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Nevertheless, I wouldn't classify Red Sox/Mets as a Major League rivalry, particularly as both have a common enemy in the Yankees, which seems to trump all other rivalries. -R. fiend 04:12, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Some of the rivalries were created by the fans, some were drum up by the press. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 04:23, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Rivalries like "Bill Buckner" exist mainly to give the sports press something to ruminate over when these two teams happen to meet. That said, many fans care deeply about the '86 WS (and similar past meetings), so the notion of a rivalry isn't inappropriate -- it is just a lesser-known rivalry. I assume "Major League" refers to the sport, Major League Baseball, and not to the magnitude of the rivalry. Xoloz 06:13, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with the MLB article and cleanup, I'm not seeing much POV in this article, however it contains alot of information that is total BS.Gateman1997 03:07, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, There is no POV...it's a list.Aronomy 03:31, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Exactly. It's a list of items based on a fan's POV. Win777 17:42, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Names aren't official, but they are widely known. Google searches can verify these easily. Xoloz 03:53, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I had a difficult time looking some of them up in Google. Win777 14:53, 21 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I am as well, I'm changing my vote above to merge with the MLB article. This list contains many "rivalries" that aren't anything more then teams playing each other. For instance the A's-Mairiners rivalry? There is no such thing.Gateman1997 17:10, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but edit so only the major, recognized rivalries are there. --Titoxd 23:42, 21 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete, highly dependent on POV. This list contributes absolutely nothing.
 * Move and Cleanup per The Literate Engineer below. -ÅfÇ++ 01:53, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Where do you see POV? Gateman1997 03:00, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Move and Cleanup to Major League Baseball Rivalries. Clean-up should consist of removing redlinks from the list, or at least removing all the minor rivalries (Braves-Nationals isn't on the level of Yankees-Red Sox, or even Braves-Mets) and adding several paragraphs of text explaining and analyzing MLB rivalries in general terms - things like whether they originate with the players or the fans, the role of the media in drumming them up, etc. The Literate Engineer 09:15, 22 July 2005 (UTC)


 * If the list is going to be kept and cleaned up, then, the BS rivalries which have articles should be deleted, too. I've looked up the names of the some of the "rivalries" by searching the name as an exact phrase on Google, and I did not find them, except the ones created on Wikipedia.   "Real rivalries," like the Subway Series, were found on Google by using their name as an exact phrase search.  Win777 16:52, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * No argument from me about that, Win777. The Literate Engineer 19:40, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
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