Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mariah Carey live performances (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Mz7 (talk) 00:28, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

List of Mariah Carey live performances
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Per WP:NTOURS this is a summarisation of many other articles - the concert pages and wikipedia is not a indiscriminate list of information. Much of the information on this page is covered/duplicated elsewhere or just generally doesn't meet the notability standard for inclusion like this. It is also highly unlikely that users would know to search for this page. It reads like a "fan site/page" and doesn't provide context that isn't already provided at the artists' page. → Lil- ℧niquԐ1 - ( Talk ) - 22:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  → Lil- ℧niquԐ1 - ( Talk ) - 22:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as per nomination.TH1980 (talk) 00:52, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


 * KEEP All of those concert tours are blue linked to their own articles. So the list is a logical grouping helpful for navigation.   D r e a m Focus  17:02, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * comment, per WP:INHERIT, articles do not inherit notability from primary topics. The summary information about the tours and performances can be found on the relevant artist, album and song pages. This page amounts to an indiscriminate list and excessive trivia which is of limited appeal. → Lil- ℧niquԐ<b style="color:#126180">1</b> <small style="color:#1CA9C9">- ( Talk ) - 19:47, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Kindly read something before you link to it to argue your case. This is a valid spinoff topic, and also its a notable list topic since it groups similar articles to link to.  The information is not trivia, but valid information about the tours in an easy to sort through layout.  It is not indiscriminate, nor does it matter if you consider something to have "limited appeal".   D r e a m Focus  20:04, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment, nominator's reason for deletion is that this list doesn't meet WP:NTOURS, and? this is a list, the relevant guideline is WP:LISTN ie. are there sources that discuss this group/partial group of entries/ does the list "fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes"?, not whether each tour has received significant independent coverage. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:50, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment whilst the topics of the list might have received coverage from reliable sources but that is already noted on their individual pages or the artists' bio page. Therefore this renders this list indiscriminate and ultimately doesn't explain why this needs to be in existence when it duplicates information already listed elsewhere. Additionally this level of detail could consitute WP:FANCRUFT → Lil- <b style="color:#1CA9C9">℧niquԐ</b><b style="color:#126180">1</b> <small style="color:#1CA9C9">- ( Talk ) - 12:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment according to google, there seems many wiki pages of list of xx live performances (here.) Lainx (talk) 20:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:39, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep This list meets our criteria for WP:LISTN. The blue links speak to notability. And the list aides our readers in navigation. Lightburst (talk) 15:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: The article has almost 300 references. It's clearly been assembled with a great deal of care, and is not an indiscriminate list. If this is a compilation of information that's already on other pages, then that's quite a bit of information, which makes this overview helpful to readers. — Toughpigs (talk) 22:38, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per reasons above. List easily meets WP:LISTN. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 13:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


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