Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mario series species


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete, wikipedia is not a game guide.

List of Mario series species

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This lists documents pretty much every single unverifiable and non-notable enemy of the series. Nothing can be written about them, and any notable enemies are covered on a separate list. This is essentially game guide material as the only information that can be written includes what they look like and how they attack. There is absolutely no need for this. TTN 23:02, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete We've already got List of Mario series enemies, don't we? Cheers, Lanky ( TALK ) 13:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.  -- Pax:Vobiscum 18:01, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete due to duplication.--JForget 18:18, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Don't Delete: Next time this thing is revived, I'm never mentioning it. Ever. because whenever I do, some deletion-hungry person goes and tries to delete it. >.> Anyways, this needs to be saved, BECAUSE Not only is the list of Mario series enemies HORRIBLY incomplete (something that our friendly TTN is trying to NOT rectify by not allowing any enemies not deemed "major" enough), but this is a list of Mario species CHARACTERS. This includes FRIENDLY species like Toad and Bub-ulb and others, which would never have any mention otherwise.


 * Not to mention this page is MUCH better and MUCH more complete than the list of enemies. It includes species that TTN won't even allow on that list-- A list, mind you, that is supposed to be a COMPLETE list of enemies in the Mario universe, in which the page FAILS miserably. Why make a list if all the enemies there have their own pages anyways? Then TTN throws out some guidelines made by Wikipedia, but when I read them, I see nothing against letting those enemies in. I don't see where he gets that stuff.


 * In conclusion, it is not thsi list that should be deleted, but the list of Mario series enemies. This list includes both good and bad species, not just bad. TTN seems to be so determined allowing the least amount of specific information possible be put into anything, so I don't understand why he favors a list of merely enemies over a list of both enemies AND good species, like Toad and Yoshi. General Banzai 22:03, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: Also, after reviewing the WP:FICT further, I realized that it actually goes AGAINST TTN. In it, there are only two categories: Major and Minor. There is no "too minor to not be included". It just says "Minor". And you know what it say under "minor"? That ALL minor characters should be put in a list of characters. Thusly, what this article is doing is actually FOLLOWING the guidelines of Wikipedia, whereas the Enemy List IS NOT. General Banzai 22:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Respectfully, I disagree. Some of the species in Mario are certainly notable, this is true. Creatures like the citizens of Mushroom Kingdom, the Goombas, Koopas, etc... They're all worthy of coverage in an encyclopedia. On the other hand, some are not. For example...
 * Stone Chomp—an ancient Chomp made of stone that guards the Dry Dry Ruins in Paper Mario. How is this enemy notable? It's essentially just a Chomp-Chomp made of stone.
 * Strawhead—a ghastly pumpkin-like creature that haunts the Sunken Ship in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars; palette swap of Hobgoblin. Again, what notability is there to this foe? He appears in one game, in one level.
 * Blue Koopa Troopa—A Koopa with a blue shell that appears in various games, starting with Super Mario World. It is seemingly more intelligent than the Red Koopa Troopa. Does this need an entry seperate from the Koopa Troopa listing? Why?
 * I hate using words like cruft, but it does fit in the case of this list right here. I'm sure it'd be a fantastic addition to Egamia or some other gaming or Mario oriented Wiki, but I don't think it has a place here. Wikipedia is not an indescriminate collection of information, after all. Cheers, Lanky TALK 14:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.