Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mediacorp Channel 8 Chinese drama series before 1982


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The result was merge to List of programmes broadcast by Mediacorp Channel 8.  Sandstein  22:06, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

List of Mediacorp Channel 8 Chinese drama series before 1982

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Fails WP:LISTN. We are not a TV directory. Almost none of the shows listed have articles, and I could find no sources that discussed these as a /group/ and not just as individual shows. The chosen date range also confuddles me. See also List of Mediacorp Channel 8 Chinese drama series (2010s), which has COI and PAID problems that may also exist on this page and might warrant a WP:TNT. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 18:46, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep as a useful index page, there is no promotionalism so upe/coi is not an issue, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:12, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - this is a defined list of notable subjects with a common theme. matt91486 (talk) 09:37, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. A list of completely non notable television shows, also per nom Wikipedia is not a TV directory. Ajf773 (talk) 09:55, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Why do you say these shows are unnotable? Just because articles haven't been written yet, that doesn't indicate whether or not the subjects are notable. matt91486 (talk) 19:31, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Are you able to demonstrate how they are notable?? Ajf773 (talk) 02:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * "Generally, an individual radio or television program is likely to be notable if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope), or on a cable television channel with a broad regional or national audience." WP:TVSERIES. matt91486 (talk) 06:13, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make them automatically notable. Especially with the lack of sourcing in this article. Ajf773 (talk) 08:05, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I mean, we aren't creating articles for them all at the moment. But it certainly suggests that the default position of keeping things that are more likely than not to be notable in a list is prudent. matt91486 (talk) 19:11, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment As I said in another string of this nom, what you consider non-notable is plenty notable in Singapore; they care not one whit about the Go-Bots there, but in North America, mentioning 	The Unfilial Son will get only confused stares outside of a few Singaporean expatriates; that doesn't kill WP:N right there.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:13, 13 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge all 3 Mediacorp Channel 8 pages and remove unnecessary fields. Category:Lists of television series by network shows that lists of series broadcast by network/channel is something that is allowed on en.wiki, however if List of programs broadcast by American Broadcasting Company can do this in one page, then there is no reason why Mediacorp Channel 8 needs 3 and it definitely does not need to list number of episodes or cast. --Gonnym (talk) 11:44, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge all to List of programmes broadcast by Mediacorp Channel 8 and de-cruft There is no godforsaken reason a television network/channel needs more than one list of page for all their programming, nor do they need division by decade.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge all: Per user's Nate, Gonnym, and Matt91486. Something needs to be done as List of Mediacorp Channel 8 Chinese drama series (2000s) shows to be an hourly listing with "9pm drama series" and "7pm drama series" sections that indicates theoretically there could be 22 more hours added. If we are not becoming a TV guide then there needs to be some "de-crufting", reorganizing, or general fixing. I agree that List of programmes broadcast by Mediacorp Channel 8 would be a good target. Otr500 (talk) 05:22, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge all. We do tend to allow "lists of television programs broadcast by network", not to serve as a programming guide but to serve as a navigational index to help people find Wikipedia articles — but there's no need to create or maintain multiple separate lists for each individual type of programming broadcast by the same television network. The pie does not need to be sliced that narrowly — one master list is sufficient in this case. Bearcat (talk) 18:22, 13 January 2020 (UTC)


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