Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mexicans in the world


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep in favor of non-delete alternatives. I am personally redirecting the article to Demographics of Mexico as a realistic target, which will not preclude further discussion on the eventual outcome of the article's content. lifebaka++ 19:01, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

List of Mexicans in the world

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This is a badly referenced, inaccurate and ludicrous list with zero encyclopaedic value. failing policies at WP:VER and WP:NOT. The figures quoted are out of date and/or misleading and I fail to see how this problem could ever be fixed. For example the reference given for there being 107 Mexicans in New Zealand is to an official site that refers to 450 Mexicans registered with the local embassy rather than how many actually are bona fide immigrants. Other figures are based on out of date references and have spurious precision - e.g. exactly 2,327 in Costa Rica almost a decade ago. This is not a "List of Mexicans in the world" but a "List of recent guesstimates of Mexican expatriate numbers" andy (talk) 19:41, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions.  -- – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 19:49, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
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 * Delete per Andyjsmith, no real inclusion criteria. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 20:36, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - no informational value that couldn't be included under Mexico. It's almost comedic in its ridiculousness. - DustFormsWords (talk) 23:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep for now The list is two days old and written by a new editor. I think at least a bit of discussion with the editor should occur before deletion. Gruntler (talk) 05:58, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The editor is an infrequent visitor to WP and hasn't been back since I originally prodded the article. I doubt if we'll hear from him. Anyway, what would he say - it's either a silly list or it isn't. andy (talk) 09:37, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe the creator hasn't been back because he's discouraged about his contributions being up for deletion two days after he made them. Anyway, I don't know what *he* would say, but I could see several paths for improvement to WP standards. For example, it could serve as the nucleus for an article on Mexican emigration, like the article on overseas Chinese and the list contained therein. Gruntler (talk) 21:59, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That list was added to an existing article, not the other way round. But the field is all yours - if you'd like to have a go at creating such an article I'm happy to withdraw the nomination. This AfD still has a while to run so there's plenty of time. andy (talk) 22:12, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep The title is clumsy, but the data is correctly referenced. At the very least, merge it with the article on Mexico. Warrah (talk) 21:25, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Exactly what value would this list add to Mexico? But if you'd like to do this then I'm happy to withdraw the nomination. andy (talk) 22:12, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep by the same reason as Warra says or transfer to another article. The information there is valuable. Dentren  |  Ta lk  23:55, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep but rename "Emigration from Mexico". There is an article with similar scope titled "Emigration from the United States". There are many others that appear to be similar in Category:Emigrants by nationality, and the content here (assuming it's well referenced or can be referenced) is significant and encyclopedic. Ecphora (talk) 23:06, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep If some of the reference are misleading, then fix it. The emigration of Mexicans around the world is an encyclopedic topic, and I don't see a valid rationale to delete valuable information. --Jmundo (talk) 04:35, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The topic of Mexican emigration is encyclopedic. This out of date and innacurate list is not andy (talk) 08:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Old references are not a valid reason for deletion  These might be the most current information available; if not, more current sources can be substituted.  In either case, the lead can and should explain the state of the data.   Ecphora (talk) 14:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. The article is directly copied from the Spanish Wikipedia, Anexo:Mexicanos en el mundo, and so can be deleted. Abductive  (reasoning) 05:03, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's standard Wikipedia practice to translate articles from foreign language Wikipedias. See, e.g., Translation.   There's even a Spanish Translation of the Week for articles translated from the Spanish.  So, how does the fact that this article is on the Spanish Wikipedia support deleting it here?  Ecphora (talk) 07:08, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It can be deleted if that is consensus, without fear of loss of information. For example, if renamed, the new redirect can be deleted without violating the GDFL, since it is a copy. Abductive  (reasoning) 15:57, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep and rename - as per Ecphora AirRaidPatrol 84 (talk) 14:17, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.