Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED vehicles and aircraft


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Procedural keep. This can be immediately relisted. v/r - TP 14:57, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

List of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED vehicles and aircraft
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Plot only coverage of a fictional topic, which does not meet the general notability guideline due to a lack of significant coverage in multiple third party sources. Anthem 11:10, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * As with most science fiction television series (such as Star Trek, Star Wars), the vehicles and technology are often as much an integral part of the series as the characters, and so coverage of the series requires at least some summary of those elements, and we should be surprised to not find any sources at all discussing those elements in the context of the series. I see no coverage of these elements in the parent article at present, so deletion is not an option.  This list would have to be merged to Mobile Suit Gundam SEED even if trimmed substantially, or kept as a standalone list if it remains too large.  postdlf (talk) 18:40, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Unless the content can be verified by citations to reliable sources there is no good reason to add it to the parent article. Adding unsourced and poor quality coverage of the vehicles and weapons as in this list would not improve the parent article. --Anthem 18:46, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 18:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 18:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 18:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge to Mobile Suit Gundam SEED and Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny. Though I personally think that such spin-out lists are reasonable to gives some depth to each significant fictional element's roll in the overall plot of the work without causing the main article to lose its focus. I also think that there is being a gross mis-application of WP:NOTE to lists because WP:NOTE has never been apply directly to lists. —Farix (t &#124; c) 19:04, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete This is nothing but WP:PLOT, and I do not see any notability as there are no references present. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:09, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: Anthem of joy who initiated this and other Gundam related AfDs has been indefinitely blocked by MuZemike as a sockpuppet of Claritas, who was indefinitely blocked after creating a series of disruptive AfDs in the Transformers franchize. —Farix (t &#124; c) 17:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: The article is completely unreferenced so all the content is original research by synthesis at best. With no sources, there is no presumption that the topic meets the general notability guideline. The content itself is exclusively a plot-only description of a fictional work and in no way the list meets the criteria of appropriate topics for lists. Since nothing is referenced, I do not think that a merge is deserved or that any other alternative than deletion is valid. Jfgslo (talk) 15:13, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.