Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mossad operations


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Mossad. Liz Read! Talk! 22:56, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

List of Mossad operations

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Propose merging into List of Israeli assassinations. Most of the operations listed on this page are covered on the latter page, and many of the links are redirects to either the larger assassination page or to the Mossad main page. For those bullets that are intelligence operations (eg capture of Khrushchev's speech), they can be merged into the main Mossad article. Longhornsg (talk) 21:40, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Lists,  and Israel.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 23:16, 21 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Support merge See no issue with that. Pranesh Ravikumar (talk) 05:12, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Of the first dozen items on the list, eight do not involve an assassination at all, and Wrath of God (including the Lillehammer Affair) is so much bigger than a simple assassination. Also, the merge target is not focused on Mossad but on Israeli state actions as a whole. I think this article desperately needs a strong intro and expansion, not deletion. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 13:44, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, the merge targets are both the List of Israeli assassinations and the main Mossad article. The assassinations should go into the larger Israeli assassinations article, and the Mossad intelligence operations should go there. Longhornsg (talk) 15:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I expressed myself poorly. I think that a list of Mossad operations in addition to the Mossad article is a good idea, and that putting Mossad-led assassinations only in the other list is not an ideal solution. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 16:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge into the ultrashort Mossad as an unjustified spinoff. The suggested ATD target is not a good idea as operations do not equal assassinations. The entire domain is a mess so this will this not nearly solve all the problems. It would, however, be a big step in the right direction. Nominator also nominated Kidon. That's another step. Plus the Mossad article, internally, is also a mess. Finally, these lists of assassinations are very confusing! These are assassinations by agents of governments. Not just any Fooyan assassinations! gidonb (talk) 20:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. No merge either. "List of Mossad operations" is exactly the kind of list I would expect Wikipedia to have. Srnec (talk) 00:06, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:01, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. The list suggested by the nominator is too different; the merging with the history of the institution itself suggested in the comments is even less tenable. Suitskvarts (talk) 12:55, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep The proposed merge target doesn't seem helpful. Not all Mossad operations are assassinations. Not all Israeli assassinations are done by Mossad. I don't see any reason to merge into the main Mossad article either, as it would likely make that article overly long. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:11, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge Far more information is already at Mossad. If it gets too large, it can be split off to a separate list.   D r e a m Focus  18:27, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: This discussion is evenly split between those editors wanting this article to remain as a standalone article and those advocating a Merge with Mossad. Maybe a few more days will tilt the discussion clearly in one direction. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:13, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 23:43, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Support merging. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 14:42, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge Not independent on its own. Azuredivay (talk) 05:33, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment There are two different, general Merge target articles mentioned. If you would like to see this article Merged, please be specific on where it should be Merged to so the closer can assess your opinions. Liz Read! Talk! 04:33, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Two sections in the same article plus another article. I'm ok with the other section in the same article. The entire article needs work anyway. Longhornsg and Pranesh Ravikumar, can you live with the proposal by User:Dream Focus? gidonb (talk) 05:34, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Fine by me. Longhornsg (talk) 15:34, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * gidonb, were my words confusing? Please give the closer a specific article and section to point the article, too. It's still not clear what you want. Liz Read! Talk! 02:34, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * No no, nothing was confusing. As you say, just making sure that the section is also consensual. The proposed merge target is Mossad. gidonb (talk) 03:23, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. Liz Read! Talk! 21:42, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Support merge with Mossad as original nom. Longhornsg (talk) 14:52, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge to Mossad per . KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 02:09, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.