Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of My Life as a Teenage Robot characters


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to My Life as a Teenage Robot. Liz Read! Talk! 23:36, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

List of My Life as a Teenage Robot characters

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Does not meet WP:GNG, WP:NLIST or WP:LSC. The list has a history of WP:FANCRUFT information and is still currently having trouble even citing a single source, let alone a reliable one. Sparkl talk 18:55, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, Television, Visual arts, Comics and animation,  and Entertainment.  Sparkl talk 18:55, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete FANDOM material that fails WP:ALLPLOT. There is nothing of use to even merge to anywhere because it cites zero sources and is purely original research. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:58, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 19:17, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Another overwritten and 'type what I see' self-sourced character list with a ghost town of a references section.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 20:25, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect: Lists like this generally should be kept. However, I don't see much sourcing to make it where it can be kept. Nonetheless, this is a valid redirect for My Life as a Teenage Robot per WP: ATD-M and WP:CHEAP. MoonJet (talk) 10:07, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge to My Life as a Teenage Robot. There really is no need to delete in cases like these, AFD is not cleanup, and in this case the main problem is mostly a lack of effort to find sources on the part of the creator, so a merge of the most notable information to a section in the main article is the logical choice.★Trekker (talk) 10:25, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * There seems to be no characters section in My Life as a Teenage Robot, oddly enough. Should this become a redirect, one should be created there, and have the most relevant information on the characters there, at least the main characters like Jenny, Brad, Tucker and Dr. Wakeman. MoonJet (talk) 15:15, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment If this is what would be chosen, it shouldn't be merged as-is without sources, passing the buck along to the main article. There's no excuse to maintain a no-sourced status quo.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 17:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not much of an expert on WP:MOSTV, but according to WP:TVCAST, it seems that citations isn't a big concern regarding a cast of characters in the main article of a TV series. We still do have to trim out a lot of insignificant characters of course. Sparkl talk 17:35, 30 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge selectively to round out the My Life as a Teenage Robot article with a characters section as suggested by and . Daranios (talk) 20:08, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge. Better alternative. D4iNa4 (talk) 07:35, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect. Opposing merge as there are no references, any merge would violate WP:V. This is pure WP:FANCRUFT. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:11, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The primary source is clear, that's the series itself. Primary sources are fine to verify their own content, which is also specifically called out at WP:Primary sources, point 3. So as long as there is no specific reason to assume that we have an interpretation here rather than plot summary, this does not violate WP:V. Daranios (talk) 10:37, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Daranios Without footnotes or such, how can we be sure there are no hoaxes or errors in this content? I'd accept a confirmation from someone familiar with the source material who can say this is correct. Otherwise, I stand by my vote of caution. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:07, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Based on this argument one could justify deleting all content lacking in-line citations on Wikipedia. This is not supported by WP:V nor any other policy I am aware of. Rather, we are encouraged by the guidelines to assume in good faith that the author writing our summaries here is just such a person "familiar with the source material" who would tell us "this is correct" - unless there is indication that there are hoaxes or errors, of course. If you would like to be sure, there is an easy if, err, time-consuming way: Just get back to the primary source and watch the show. Daranios (talk) 10:33, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Daranios My reading of WP:V is different. Any content can be challenged, and once challenged, it should not be restored without citations. That's call meeting the (modern, if always written down) standards. It is the responsibility of the creator, or fans, or other interested editor to provide the sources, or, errr, watch the show, now that attention has been drawn to the article not meeting said standards. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 13:46, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * What's the reason to doubt the verifiablity here? Challenging content without having a good reason would be arbitrary and then amount to WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Daranios (talk) 15:13, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * This is just false, IMHO. You ignore WP:ALLPLOT, WP:FANCRUFT, and WP:TNT. WP:AGF isn't the most relevant here, since this clearly violates these guidelines (or essays) I linked. By the way, I know I linked some essays, but your linking of WP:IDONTLIKEIT is an essay. I'm just confused that why merge an WP:ALLPLOT version? Many thanks again! VickKiang (talk) 21:56, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Here I was just replying to the "any merge would violate WP:V" opinion. I had not ignored the guidelines/essays you have linked, and based on that my !vote was and is not "keep", but rather "selective merge" to My Life as a Teenage Robot, which has lots of non-plot information to counterbalance plot information. WP:TNT would mean that none of what we have here is of any use. But like and others, I believe a limited amount of character description on the main characters from here would benefit the main article. Daranios (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Daranios In addition to what is said above, there is also WP:OR to consider. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:51, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Proper plot summary of primary sources is not original research. Daranios (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Key word here: proper. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:47, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting as I see proponents for all possibilities. Looks like the majority of editors would prefer Merging this article with the main article but I'm relisting just in case. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:08, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect Even if this article meets WP:V (I'm sure there's definitely some WP:OR), the article is WP:ALLPLOT, WP:FANCRUFT, and meets WP:TNT, and seems to be a list that fails WP:NLIST, or an article that doesn't meet WP:GNG. There's simply nothing to save here, sadly. VickKiang (talk) 04:14, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge or Keep. The arguments above that unsourced statements are unsourceable and hence fail V is nonsensical when everything is sourceable to the primary material: Primary meets V for uncontroversial statements like which characters exist in a setting. Jclemens (talk) 04:32, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Selective Merge to My Life as a Teenage Robot - Mainly, just the "Main" character section from this list. Its reasonable to expect information on the main cast to be included on an article on a notable television program, and the sources that are already present at the My Life as a Teenage Robot article already verify that they are, in fact, the main characters and are voiced by the indicated VAs. I agree with many of the Delete votes that this current list is overly excessive in listing every minor character with overly detailed plot summaries, but I do think that its reasonable for the information on the main characters to be merged over. Rorshacma (talk) 17:31, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge with the main page in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. --Rtkat3 (talk) 20:36, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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