Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of NASCAR drivers (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. However if an editor is aware of a way to keep it current and helpful in a manner complementary to the existing seasonal ones, happy to provide it as a draft. Star  Mississippi  03:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

List of NASCAR drivers
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Fails WP:NOTSTATS, WP:V and possibly WP:BLP. In general, lists of "current" things are of dubious notability, because they will, in all likelihood, become empty at some point in the future (see the recent USFL AfD, for example).

This is a largely unreferenced list of living people which is terminally out of date. Some of the sublists haven't been updated since 2015. The page is a collection of career statistics which lack context, and it's unclear how the numbers are derived (e.g. do they include stats from multiple NASCAR series?) They may even be original calculations. Even if the list were well-referenced and updated regularly, it's unclear why the career statistics of this WP:CROSSCAT of drivers (i.e. currently active in any NASCAR series) are notable.

Actually current and verifiable information about the current roster of NASCAR drivers can be found on the per-season pages, such as 2023 NASCAR Cup Series. Because these pages refer to specific years, we can be assured that notability will persist indefinitely.

No consensus to delete last summer, but no compelling arguments to keep, either. pburka (talk) 00:35, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Motorsport. pburka (talk) 00:35, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - Just one long, long, long list, with only one entry having a source. — Maile (talk) 04:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Tentative Keep: needs to trim off some trivia columns and a big update, but is otherwise a valid list concept. See List of Major League Baseball players (A), which is also a very long list of people from a specific league that contains notable biographical info. I don't know if the nominated article needs a WP:TNT or just some love. Wizmut (talk) 18:58, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that there could be a legitimate list with this title, but I do believe this is a case of TNT. The baseball list you linked isn't limited to active players and isn't providing detailed career statistics. That's the right way to do it. While this page purports to be a "list of NASCAR drivers", it's more accurately an (out of date) "list of career achievements of current NASCAR drivers". pburka (talk) 20:03, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. RegalZ8790 (talk) 03:06, 26 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.