Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of NFL Draft Busts


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Keep (see my talk for full explanation) Wikibofh 17:02, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

List of NFL Draft Busts
Nomination This list constitutes sports trivia, and sports trivia list, especially one that relies on arbitrary decisions of which fan's opinion is right, is not an encyclopedia article. It should also be deleted as a matter of consistent application of policy and principle, in light of the impending deletion of several other U.S. professional sports draft-related lists. The Literate Engineer 18:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep I do not understand why this is considered to be POV. If there is a player that has failed to succeed in the NFL and he was drafted in the first round of an NFL draft, There is no doubt that the player is considered to be a bust. Yes, I know that there a limits to the labeling of players as busts (for example, I won't label Daunte Culpepper as a bust because he is having the worst season of his career and it is a slight possibility that he succeeded because he had Randy Moss. However, there is no debate as to whether or not Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch are busts). I can understand that there is a opinion gap on who's a steal or not a steal. I just don't see the bust as being a POV issue. Hossmann 15:40, 15 October 2005.
 * Merge to List of Sports Flops better off there. --JAranda &#124; watz sup 20:39, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, inherent POV, addresses the reader. Rhobite 02:15, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment I think the POV issue/arbitrary nature of the criteria is actually secondary to the main problem of the list just not belonging on Wikipedia, especially not as its own entry. That alone, to me, is reason to delete it; the concern that it is going to be perpetually POV/"fuzzy" on its inclusion/exclusion criteria is just icing on the cake.  The Literate Engineer 04:43, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep This article is far better than the Sports Flops one (and that survived the deletion voting). Besides, merging this and the List of NHL Draft Busts into the sports flops article would make one massive article that loses all practicality. The best think is to set strict criteria for players to be included. Masterhatch 06:43, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per The Literate Engineer (don't forget to use the subst:afd tags, it caused the edit link for the nomination to got to a template page). -- Kjkolb 08:41, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Subjective list without criteria, ergo unencyclopedic. Xoloz 12:24, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.