Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of NFL Draft busts


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete.  K ilo-Lima|(talk) 11:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

List of NFL Draft busts
Due to the success of a similar AfD, I am nominating this and other similar lists for deletion discussion. If someone wants to create a list like this one but with less subjective criteria, I think it would be much more welcome. Grand master  ka  10:48, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per previous AfD: there is no obvious objective definition of the term "bust". Just zis Guy you know? 11:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, per above. Plus, the article is unsourced and as it stands violates WP:NOR. PJM 12:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. There article could well have sources, but overall it's a fine subject for an article about the NFL Draft. Players like Ki-Jana Carter and Todd Marinovich are compared by stats to more successful players, and so it satisfies my criteria for being objective.--Mike Selinker 14:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Using stats is fine, but that's not enough to evaluate a "bust."  Jeff George, for instance, put up OK stats but never won anything and was considered a horrible teammate.  So is he a bust?  --cholmes75 15:25, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete per nominator and per the discussion on the AfD for NFL Draft steals. Fluit 19:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete per nom, PJM, and the steals AfD. Joe 20:06, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. The very nature of sports, along with any other entertainment, involves intangible superlatives.  Carry this sentiment to its logical conclusion, and Arnold Schwartzenegger kicks Clark Gable's backside as an actor, because he's made more money at it.  RGTraynor 20:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete no objectively meaningful criteria for inclusion or exclusion. Carlossuarez46 21:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, as "failing to live up to expectations" is inherently subjective. &mdash; Rebelguys2 talk 23:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete it's unfortunately POV and mine would be a different list which tells me that it's OR and has to go unfortunately MLA 09:01, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - I voted keep on the other AfD, but other users convinvced me that there are no objective criteria for a "steal"; a "bust" is no different. ProhibitOnions 15:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. -- JJay 19:17, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fundamentally flawed and hopelessly POV. -Colin Kimbrell 21:04, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I disagree with some others that say that draft bust cannot have an article of some sort, but a subjective and hyper-inclusive list isn't the way to go.  young  american  (talk) 01:00, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete --Jaranda wat's sup 18:25, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.