Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of National Basketball Association career franchise rebounding leaders


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The result was delete --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 19:23, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

List of National Basketball Association career franchise rebounding leaders

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Contested WP:PROD. List fails WP:LISTN, as it hasn't been "discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources". While there may be some articles that discuss leaders for an individual NBA franchise, LISTN is not met with insufficient sources that discuss the grouping of leaders from all NBA franchises. While there are stats sites that can verify this particular list, a policy of Wikipedia is not WP:NOTSTATSBOOK. This list of of stats leaders must meet LISTN from sources with prose, not pure stats listings, to alleviate NOTSTATSBOOK concerns. —Bagumba (talk) 00:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. —Bagumba (talk) 00:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. —Bagumba (talk) 00:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 20:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. Aspirex (talk) 02:37, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Franchise scoring leadership does get some independent coverage, but that's about the only stat that this is true for.  We love our points. Rikster2 (talk) 15:43, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Well-done article, and rebounds are an important statistic in basketball (obtaining possession of the ball is the most crucial activity in the game aside from scoring). By way of comparison, see the many list articles for football passing achievements. Pax 09:29, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Rebound (basketball) is notable, but nobody is arguing for that article's deletion. Instead, List of National Basketball Association career franchise rebounding leaders has been nominated here, and you have not demonstrated that WP:LISTN is met. WP:PRETTY and a wave at WP:OTHERSTUFF are generally considered arguments to avoid in deletion discussions.—Bagumba (talk) 10:13, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions (which WP:Pretty links to) includes just about everything and anything under the sun (and as such would be more honestly titled "Arguments that annoy me when they're made in support of a conclusion I don't want") - such as the "per noms" that the first two voters here were able to get away with without attracting the ire of circling raptors. Pax 03:11, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:PERNOM that you referred to says: "If the rationale provided in the nomination includes a comprehensive argument ... an endorsement of the nominator's argument may be sufficient." I'll leave it to the closer to determine if the nomination was comprehensive.—Bagumba (talk) 03:34, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not an random collection of statistics. The topic does not receive coverage on its own. - Bossanoven (talk) 19:14, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator Bagumba's rationale. Frankly, I wish other sports projects were more consistent in enforcing WP:NOTSTATSBOOK and WP:NLIST.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 03:38, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.