Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Navy–Vieques protesters and supporters


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 14:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

List of Navy–Vieques protesters and supporters

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This article is a list of people -- most of them alive -- purportedly involved in civil disobedience whose only reference (now removed) was a now-of-line website. If someone fixes it, great. I would haply withdraw this. But we simply cannot keep such an article "for a while", per BLP. damiens.rf 16:40, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete if not sourced within the timespan of this AfD, per BLP. Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 18:00, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Probable Delete: If the article cannot be very carefully sourced, it definitely should be deleted. If only a small number of the names can be sourced, then it should likely be deleted and the information can just go on each person's bio (and an appropriate mention can be made on United States Navy in Vieques, Puerto Rico).  If most of it can be sourced, I'm on the fence, because my feeling is that it's not appropriate to create lists of people, the only intersection for which is support or opposition of a certain political position.  The closest I can find is List of supporters of same-sex marriage in the United States, which only covers politicians (and political parties) that have taken an explicit stance as part of their work as office holders/campaigners; and List of people who made multiple religious conversions, which is more about the actions people took than their beliefs.  I'm concerned about the idea that we could start to create articles like List of supporters of raising the debt limit in July 2011 or List of people support abortion only in cases of rape or incest or even List of people who have said their favorite color is red.  Yes, I'm being facetious, but it's because I think that there is potential harm in us, as an encyclopedia, creating (what will always be) incomplete lists on people of a certain opinion.  I'm not totally certain, but the concept behind this is worrisome to me. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:11, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Puerto Rico-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 02:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 02:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete: unsourced WP:BLP violation, and no indication why this topic requires a stand-alone list, rather than simply discussion at United States Navy in Vieques, Puerto Rico. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 18:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I added some references easily enough. You just search for the name of the base, and the name of the person they saw protested it.    D r e a m Focus  00:53, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: Why should Wikipedia create incomplete lists on people of a certain opinion? The concept behind this list is worries me, too. I am agreeing with Qwyrxian, but taking it further and saying that the whole concept should be discussed elsewhere. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:28, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: per HrafnV7-sport (talk) 06:13, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - per Qwyrxian's block o' text. Even with the sourcing, the issue here is with the entire concept. Yaksar (let's chat) 06:38, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - per Qwyrxian. Beyond that I find the title quite confusing - I expected to find people on both sides of the issue based on it.  Having only one side reported makes the list POV or literally one-sided. Finally these types of lists could be endless - think of Lists of people who protested the Vietnam War.  The solution is quite simple - just put the really notable people in the Navy–Vieques article.  Smallbones (talk) 16:31, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Why not Lists of people who supported the Vietnam War? The concept is bad, the lists tend to be biased, and this example should be deleted. Beyond that, as an Article Rescue Squadron member, I rarely submit an AfD, but now this kind of thing is leading me to consider it. I also think about creating a few lists on silly issues, just to show how bad the whole idea is. For example, what about the people who protest animal nudity? --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:53, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
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