Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Need for Speed soundtracks


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete all. Sifting through some rhetorical questions about what is notable to people who like the games, which is not relevant to our policies, the consensus was that these lists constitute a violation of the undue weight clause, present an indiscriminate collection of information, and most importantly contain no encyclopedic information that is verifiable. As the nomination said (and this was never countered) the only sources are gaming websites and the soundtracks themself. I will of course happily make the content available to anyone wishing to transwiki any info, but it's their responsibility to make sure that the GFDL is observed. Chick Bowen 01:50, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

List of Need for Speed soundtracks

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I am also nominating the following related pages:

Per my deletion argument for FIFA series soundtracks (I didn't realise these ones existed at the time, or I would have bundled them all together), here's why we don't need these: So yeah, it's gamecruft isn't it. Why do Electronic Arts deserve articles on their game soundtracks? Very few (if any) other publishers have this kind of coverage on WP. Also, please note that List of Need for Speed soundtracks contains info on two compilation albums based on music from Need for Speed: Most Wanted. Of course real albums can be given their own article/s if notable enough, but I would say these should almost certainly be merged into Need for Speed: Most Wanted.  Mi re ma re  12:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Notability - the only sources these soundtracks have (not that any but Need for Speed and NBA Live cite sources anyway) are such gaming sites as ign, gamespot, teamxbox etc. who report on many such aspects of games as and when they are announced by the publisher. This does not comprise significant coverage as each game's soundtrack is not discussed in any meaningful way, just listed, somtimes along with a bit of press-release blurb.
 * 2) WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information. Each game's soundtrack has no meaningful connection to the others in its series and so listing them together serves no real purpose.
 * 3) WP:NOT - Notable elements of soundtracks should be written about (not listed) in each game's article.
 * 4) WP:WEIGHT - the soundtracks have little to no impact on the games themselves, and their importance is being highly overstated by giving them seperate articles. Again, the most notable elements of each soundtack should be mentioned on the pages of the games in question. Considering there's the EA Trax parent article too, these individual lists are simply unnecessary detail.
 * 5) Guidelines for video game articles - "[articles should not contain] an excessive amount of non-encyclopedic trivia". Simply being true and verifyable is no reason for inclusion. If necessary, these lists should be transferred to a suitable gaming wiki - they can always be linked to from the game articles.
 * 6) Also per general WP:CVG concensus that video game lists have to demonstrate a very good reason for existing, and these simply don't.


 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game deletions.  Mi re ma re  13:22, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, redirect and transwikify per nom and FIFA precedent. No use in arguing everything twice. User:Krator (t c) 14:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Per nom: Good points on everything. Not encyclopedic.  Good job! - Rjd0060 16:36, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Nothing else I can say that the nominator has not, but delete. DBZROCKS   Its over 9000!!!  21:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment. The information for the soundtracks could be added to their respective articles, and then the articles themselves deleted.  Otherwise, Keep.  -- Mik 22:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Conditional delete: Soundtracks that receive OST album releases are notable, and we have plenty of such articles, but lists of songs that play during a game are not. So Keep and clean up List of Need for Speed soundtracks to only include the albums and delete the other articles unless it is shown that they recieved album releases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SeizureDog (talk • contribs) 00:37, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Slowly moving to gaming wiki I am moving it to the Encyclopedia Gamia under the soundtrack section of the games so don't quite delete them yet. I probably will be done on  October 14 --Cs california 23:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * We can't have NHL series soundtracks going into the NHL series article, we already have every game of the series crammed in there. Why is that? If each game had it's own article, I'd have nothing against taking down the article and putting each individuals soundtrack with it's respective game. FogDevil 18:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the point is that the soundtracks aren't notable - there's no need for them to be listed in their respective articles and indeed they shouldn't be.  Mi re ma re  20:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * How are they not notable? They're notable to me and whoever else likes these games.FogDevil 03:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * They may be notable within the context of the game itself, but not to the world in general, and this is a general encyclopedia. Unless independent notability can be proven with multiple reliable independent sources, each providing significant coverage to the subject, they are not notable as far as Wikipedia (see WP:N)is concerned.  Mi re ma re  18:44, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. Bearian 19:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Not notable to the world in general? There's tonnes of stuff not notable to me on Wikipedia that I don't care about, I suppose they should get deleted too? And if this pointless deletion does happen, will the soundtracks go with each games own article then? FogDevil 19:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.