Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Neighbours and Home and Away actors turned musicians


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the discussion was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 17:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

List of Neighbours and Home and Away actors turned musicians
Listcruft. Indiscriminate collection of information. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC) style="color: rgb(255, 10, 0);"> Humphreys SPEAK TO MEABOUTTHE THINGS I MESSED UP 04:04, 8 July 2006 (UTC) Capitalistroadster 04:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Ozcruft David <span
 * How is that a proper criterion for deletion? "Cruft" has been seen to be a deroragatory slogan on the Mailing list and in the proceeds of the Concordia/Community Justice project. Ans e ll  06:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, but fascinating. Yank  sox  04:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * How much more fascinating would it need to be to be non-indiscriminate? After all, you seem to contradict yourself by saying that indiscriminate information is interesting. Ans e ll  06:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. --Core des at talk. o.o;; 05:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. If the content is considered useful to anyone, it can be included in prose in the separate articles about the two different series Neighbours and Home and Away. --Metropolitan90 05:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep This is not indiscriminate. Ramseystreet 06:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom.    Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk  07:16, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * STRONG Keep or Merge, this is a subject often referred to in Australian culture, not a trivial list. Although it would be better in the soapie articles Pengo 07:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into the articles of the programs. I think the trend of Neighbours and Home and Away actors becoming pop musicians is largely due to these programs' huge popularity in the United Kingdom (are they still as popular there now? I have no idea. But it was de rigeur to watch them if you were aged 10-25 in the UK in the 1990s). This is strangely unmentioned in the article (Kylie would not be the global star she is now if not for her Neighbours celebrity appeal in the UK market) Other than that, these soaps arent really related. #Neiiiiiiiighbours... everybody neeeeeeds good Neiiiiiiiiighbours# #With just a little understanding.... Neeeeeighbours... can.... be-come..... good...... friends.........# or something like that. Bwithh 07:53, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into the two program articles, since there's no real link between them other than their being Australian. Failing that, dividing the article into two separate ones ("Neighbours actors turned musicians" and "Home And Away actors turned...") would also make sense. BigHaz 08:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. Considering BigHaz and Bwithh's ideas (and agreeing with Pengo that this is a cultural thing), would a rename to List of Australian soap opera actors turned musicians be appropriate? Also note that the list underwent a largish revision mid-way through this discussion, I'm not sure if the initial commentors would like to readdress.--Commander Keane 09:04, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Bizarre criteria; just mention this stuff in the articles for Neighbors and Home & Away. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 09:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * What is so bizarre about a phenomenon that can pick that many famous celebrities and match them back to their initial starts in the two most popular Australian soap opera shows. Ans e ll  06:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm...not exactly sure what you're saying, but it seems like a better place for this info is in the articles of the two shows and of the people involved. I think collecting "X that is Y" with no sources associating X and Y is pretty OR-ish, as well. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 08:44, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom --Alias Flood 17:04, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge with relevant articles. It is worthy of note somewhere the number of Australian pop artists who have been on either program.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions.   -- Capitalistroadster 04:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete fancruft. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:31, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * How is this only interesting to fans of the two tv shows? I am assuming that is what you are saying. It is interesting as a cultural phenomena to me as a person who doesn't watch the shows, aka, not a fan, and not thinking it is an indiscriminate collection. Ans e ll  06:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep it is well noted in Australia that Home and Away and Neighbours actors leave regularly to very notable singing and acting careers. It is not indiscriminate, it has a definite point and is appreciated by Australians who may want to search Wikipedia for this very verifiable information. Ans e ll  06:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep in sort form or another, probably renamed article as per Cmdr Keane, or even merge into Neighbours/Home and Away articles. -- Chuq 00:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into respective show articles. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 09:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge info into the Neighbours and Home and Away articles. Does not stand on its own. --Satori Son 16:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep -- verifiable list. Agree with the above comment however that the two shows aren't related and separating the list contents may be in order if kept. - Longhair 21:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Ansell. QazPlm 23:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep as a sub-category of Australian Actors and Australian Musicians Riscy 04:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - It is useful and interesting and a well established phenonom in Australian popular culture. Grumpyyoungman01 05:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


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