Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Nigerian DJs


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The result was keep. Haukur (talk) 19:32, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

List of Nigerian DJs

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Per WP:LISTN, the term "Nigerian DJ" may not have enough of a definition as a group of people that has been discussed as a group in reliable sources. Note the article's present reliance on circular references. The list also does not nail down a definition of DJ and includes a hodgepodge of radio personalities, party spinners, and rapper backers. So far the list only includes people with WP articles, but it could get indiscriminate because Nigeria is a big place with lots of music. This topic could possibly be replaced with a new category. (Also, the following is not relevant for this particular list's notability, but note that some of the people in this list have had their personal notability questioned as well.) ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 18:02, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 18:02, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment I note that there is no general List of DJs, nor any more specific lists except for this one and List of club DJs, possibly because of the broadness of the term "DJ". However, I have no opinion of my own about this list. –LaundryPizza<b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 15:26, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep or merge to a list of broader scope; standard list of people by nationality and profession. We have a well-populated Category:DJs category structure (which includes Category:DJs by nationality...which in turn includes Category:Nigerian DJs), which undercuts the notion that editors can't figure out what such a title means. The nomination is rather incoherent and offers no true argument for deletion, apparently thinking "Nigerian DJ" is some term of art or subgenre, when it's simply simply a disc jockey who is Nigerian. The nominator also undermines their claim that this list somehow does not have a workable definition, by suggesting that a category based on that same definition would be fine. postdlf (talk) 21:53, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Call my nomination incoherent if you wish, but you have argued about the validity of the Category which is not part of the nomination, and glossed over what is supposed to be different about a Category and a List. The List article nominated here is just a pile of blue links for less than ten people, and so is the Category. Why have both? Per WP:LISTN the thing being listed in a List article does indeed need to have a definition, with the policy stating "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources" (italics in original). Therefore that definition is required in a List article, but not in a Category. --- <b style="color: DarkOrchid"> DOOMSDAYER 520</b> (Talk&#124;Contribs) 18:00, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * No, just about everything you just said is incorrect, and you haven’t understood my comments. Both categories and lists require inclusion criteria, and where they cover the same subject with the same terminology are expected to use the same definitions. Neither “DJ” nor “Nigerian” has any usage here that is unique to this list. And see WP:NOTDUP. Re: LISTN, as its numerous qualifiers intend to communicate, it is sufficient but not necessary, and it’s indeed of little relevance here with such a standard list. On the number of entries, I addressed that as well with the merge alternative. postdlf (talk) 23:20, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I must request that you avoid condescending terms like "incorrect" and "incoherent" for someone who merely interprets policies differently than you. My interpretation is that "Nigerian DJ" is weakly defined. We have both made our case so perhaps future voters will be persuaded by either of us or neither. --- <b style="color: DarkOrchid"> DOOMSDAYER 520</b> (Talk&#124;Contribs) 15:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC) Keep - seems like it could grow into a useful list alongside the category. Since there is no mother article it makes sense to me to reference each entry, a process which has already partly begun. In addition that would stop cruft being added. Mujinga (talk) 16:42, 10 September 2019 (UTC)


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