Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Nigerian expatriate football players


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Fritzpoll (talk) 10:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

List of Nigerian expatriate football players

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Previous AfDs - one, two, three - show that such lists should only be covered by the relevant category, which can be found at. GiantSnowman 21:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There is no consensus. The cited discussions had a whole lot of comments supporting deletion, but none of them provided a reason based in policy or guidelines. They were just a bunch of vote-stuffing. - Mgm|(talk) 12:04, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. GiantSnowman 21:52, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I cleaned up the article a little, and agree that it does very little not already done by the relevant category. Knepflerle (talk) 22:12, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, the category doesn't even give the country they play in. Nerfari (talk) 23:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per all the same exact reasons explained in previous AfDs. Notably, my main concerns are about maintability, reliable sources and verifiability, the latter two being among the pillars of Wikipedia, therefore something you cannot definitely ignore. --Angelo (talk) 23:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's pointless to repeat the reference when you know they're in the article about the player. (Categorization won't improve verifiability for the people who prefer to have references on the page itself since you can't provide references for entries in a category) - Mgm|(talk) 12:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it's not pointless, because content in such articles tend to change with time, nobody can ensure it will be kept updated every time a new Nigerian footballers moves from one team to another, or even when a new Nigerian football expatriate is found. In addition, which players are eligible to be included in the list? Only players presently playing abroad, or players who had played abroad sometime in their life? I might go on and on with a lot of other possible concerns, but I think these two are quite enough to explain why such articles are simply unfit for Wikipedia. --Angelo (talk) 14:25, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. I would've preferred a List of Nigerian football players to exist before this was created, but this is a clear case. WP:CLN supports creation of lists that offer useful additional information a category can't offer. Since this list also mentions the countries and teams the players play for, it contains significantly more information than a category ever could. - Mgm|(talk) 12:01, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, it's unreasonable to ask unpaid volunteers to keep a list like this up-to-date when there are 2 million other articles out there all of which need maintenance, and this will be worse than useless if it's not kept current. People looking for, e.g., Nigerian players in the top flight of European football should be using the category system, that's what it's there for. Also, if past players are included, it soon be so long as to be unmanageable. Benefix (talk) 20:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, is already a category. Not a good idea to have a list of all Nigerian footballers, this has been tried (and failed) before. Punkmorten (talk) 19:21, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  16:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  16:56, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I wonder if Benefix or anyone else would be so kind as to explain exactly how to use the category system to find "Nigerian players in the top flight of European football". Nerfari (talk) 21:35, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.