Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Nobel laureates who endorse Barack Obama


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to List of Barack Obama presidential campaign endorsements, 2008. Consensus is that this is should not be a standalone article. If Pixelface is right, only 3 people are not already included in the target article, and anyone may add these there if sources turn up for their endorsement.  Sandstein  19:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

List of Nobel laureates who endorse Barack Obama

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Unsourced, likely original research compilation since the term "endorse" is subjective. Fails NOT. Fails Irrelevant Intersections for Lists. Is redundant of List of Barack Obama presidential campaign endorsements, 2008. -- Suntag  ☼  20:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It was already Proposed deletion, why the AfD?   CWii ( Talk  20:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment This is an unfortunate situation. The page itself will look like unencyclopedic listcruft very soon (no matter who wins); right now it looks politically motivated. (Not saying it is; just that it looks that way.) Regrettably, deleting it may also look politically motivated.  Best would have been to let the prod expire and delete it then. --Trovatore (talk) 20:48, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge to List of Barack Obama presidential campaign endorsements, 2008. As a separate article it's redundant.  As for sourcing, this was a notable story a few weeks ago.  this article was the announcement and linked to the endorsement letter and names of signatories.  So it's sourceable, and that footnote can be added to the main endorsement page. -Markeer 20:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge per Markeer and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Bsimmons 666  (talk) Friend? 21:08, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per your choice of WP:LC. WP:NOTNEWS applies too. Stifle (talk) 21:09, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This is totally crufty, but I don't think not news can apply here. Campaign endorsements in an election year are newsworthy kind of by definition (after all, many of them are by the news).  I would probably suggest that the merge to the main list be in the nature of one entry and link to the source, but that would be up to the editors of that page. -Markeer 21:25, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, they're newsworthy. But they're not encyclopedia-worthy, in my opinion. (Did you read WP:NOTNEWS?) Stifle (talk) 13:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:11, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge as suggested by Markeer. Nothing special about Nobel endorsements in this context to warrant a separate list. RayAYang (talk) 22:15, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge - very POV intersection
 * Merge anything relevant and cited to the list as mentioned above. This particular list is exactly the sort of list not to have. Being a Nobel Laureate is not relevant to political endorsements. Allowing this list would allow all sorts of 'crufty' lists like Cartoon animators endorsing Pepsi and Action heroes supporting McCain to name just two. - Mgm|(talk) 23:59, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge or Delete. An intersection of two unrelated topics, seemingly serving as a form of advert. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 00:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTADVOCATE as not even a veiled attempt at political lobbying. That nobel laureates support Obama? Where is the sister article List of Nobel laureates who do not endorse Barack Obama?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge per above. I can't think of anything useful to add other than that. Umbralcorax (talk) 02:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:LC. Ostap 04:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge per above; List of Barack Obama presidential campaign endorsements, 2008 is practically the perfect place for this content (though it is quite long). nneonneo talk 04:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge as noted above. No need to split this off. 23skidoo (talk) 03:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge per Markeer into List of Barack Obama presidential campaign endorsements, 2008, which already mentions 67 Nobel laureates in the #Academics section. I suppose sorting them into Economists, Scientists, and Other like that list already has it is fine. Although that list is huge at 257 kilobytes. But we'd only be adding 7 more names to it &mdash; Harold Varmus, Murray Gell-Mann, Oliver Smithies, Peter Agre, Roger Tsien, Toni Morrison, and Yoichiro Nambu (citations for those would be nice). --Pixelface (talk) 15:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect per Markeer into List of Barack Obama presidential campaign endorsements, 2008, which appears to contain all but 3 of the people on this list: Murray Gell-Mann, Roger Tsien, and Yoichiro Nambu (citations for those would be appreciated). Although that list is huge at 257 kilobytes. In that list, 67 of these people have "Nobel Laureate" next to their name, 3 have "Nobel Prize" next to their name, and Jimmy Carter and Al Gore have no note by their names, and Oliver Smithies is listed twice. --Pixelface (talk) 16:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge per Pixelface Zelmerszoetrop (talk) 19:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I have redirected. Would normally wait for the end of the AfD but in this situation that would allow an editor to game the system for political benefit.  This sort of open campaigning on WP is not admissible. --Trovatore (talk) 22:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete part of a highly partisan US election campaign that is not deserving of an encyclopedia article... each individuals bio pages might need a mention of who they endorsed for president, but only then if there's a section on their political views.Bali ultimate (talk) 00:47, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.