Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of North American birds


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Mediran  ( t  •  c ) 01:17, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

List of North American birds

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This over large article was created because it was thought to be a good idea to have a list of all birds that live in the North American continent. Unfortunately, the article was found to be too long to load in a reasonable time and a means of rectifying the problem was sought. The geographical scope of the article is Mexico, USA and Canada. Each of these countries has a complete list of resident birds, so the information in this list is located elsewhere (albeit lass conveniently). The suggested means of dealing with this list is to split it and therefore there would be no advantage over the lists mentioned above. Therefore, I believe this list should be deleted and the articles on the individual countries relied upon to serve its purpose. Op47 (talk) 23:27, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


 * If the list is to be split into multiple parts then the article should be retained as a disambiguation page - deletion is not necessary or even desirable. In any case the scope of this article is larger than Mexico, the USA and Canada, as North America includes Central America, the Caribbean and Greenland. Hut 8.5 17:05, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Really a WP:SETINDEX, not a disambiguation page. postdlf (talk) 00:25, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep I doubt that the birds recognise national frontiers and so natural geography is a better basis for a list than political geography. Note also that Audubon's work covered all of North America including the Canada Goose, for example, and we should do no less. Warden (talk) 20:20, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem is that reliable sources overwhelmingly classify birds within political boundaries. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:29, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Comment: splitting by type of bird is also possible. Siuenti (talk) 00:10, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep and probably convert it to a list-of-lists. There's no policy-based reason for deletion articulated, and I'm sure we can figure out a reasonable target to leave at this entirely intuitive title name. Jclemens (talk) 00:30, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. I really don't like the fixation that WP editors have with lists (although I have created a few myself). This list is a bit "clunky" and something needs to be done with it. Are the birds endemic, naturalised, introduced etc? Which countries are they found in? We need to realise thatt there are comp[licated things such as political and biogeographical boudaries and that most birds can fly. Need to have it as a sortable table or as a big fat dab page to all sorts of other lists. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 04:56, 25 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep (!!) and eventually split by systematic groups, like Passerines and non- Passerines or smaller groups (but not too small). North America is and integral area, geographically and biogeographically, birds don't know borders and such list is very interesting. Darekk2 (talk) 10:00, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.