Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of North American supercentenarians


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of supercentenarians from the United States. There's a clear consensus to get rid of the page as it stands now, but it's less clear what exactly should happen to it. This discussion has already been relisted twice, so I'm closing as a redirect in the vein of List of supercentenarians from Asia, but it would probably be more appropriate to convert this article to a disambiguation page or list of lists, given that there are a handful of supercentenarians from Canada and one from Jamaica. clpo13(talk) 23:23, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

List of North American supercentenarians

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Fails WP:LISTN. Absolutely no sources discuss this particular supercentenarian data set. Every reference used in this article are all tables from the GRG and nowhere on their site do they have a page, list, table, etc discussing supercentenarians by continent. If we Google the oldest living person (Delphine Gibson), all news articles describe her as the oldest in the country and not the continent which suggests this is not a notable list. Furthermore, it's a redundant table because it duplicates List of supercentenarians from the United States with the exception of six names. And those six should already be on other longevity lists. CommanderLinx (talk) 14:49, 17 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete not a topic discussed anywhere. Either World or US are valid topics. This is fancruft. Legacypac (talk) 15:01, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 15:55, 17 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge/Redirect – To List of supercentenarians from the United States. Is the subject area notable, Yes.  But already addressed here at Wikipedia. ShoesssS Talk 18:41, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep or also delete the other lists in Category:Lists of supercentenarians by continent. If kept, link to List of supercentenarians from the United States and (ahem!) List of Canadian supercentenarians, and something can be done about Violet Brown. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:00, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The other lists of supercentrians by continents shoild be dealt with on their own merits. The European list has been a good place to roll together country lists. Legacypac (talk) 02:36, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The Asia and Oceania articles are also redundant but I agree they should be looked at separately. And Violet Brown is on several other lists (list of the verified oldest people, List of the verified oldest women and Oldest people off the top of my head) so no loss of info in a delete and there's nothing to merge. CommanderLinx (talk) 03:47, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 04:54, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Why relist? Consensus has been reached here. Three users want a form of deletion and one proposes deletion of other pages as a condition, which was not accepted. Legacypac (talk) 06:04, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Bondegezou (talk) 16:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I will just note that Wikipedia is not a vote, so you if you want your view to be considered, you should provide your reasoning. Master of Time   ( talk ) 22:27, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as not meeting the type of coverage required by WP:N. Canadian   Paul  12:42, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep this is reasonable content for an almanac, and is also a reasonable WP:SAL. It's inaccurate to redirect to a United States-only page here, no opinion on other merge suggestions. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 19:17, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This list isn't reasonable and redirecting isn't inaccurate. It's non-notable because no sources discuss it and it's redundant because the only difference between the two lists are 6 names and they're already on other lists. Redirecting/Deleting loses no information and there's nothing to merge. CommanderLinx (talk) 04:20, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirecting isn't inaccurate? Last time I looked, the last hostile merger attempt failed miserably, and Canada is still in North America. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:15, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The 3 Canadians are already listed in List of Canadian supercentenarians which makes a North American one even more redundant. CommanderLinx (talk) 09:06, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   16:26, 3 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Huh??? Canada is part of North America, so redirecting to only American supercentenarians is misleading. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:46, 4 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Again - why the relist? We have added two deletes and a redirect. Is the relister just praying someone comes along to vote keep here? An Admin needs to close this. Legacypac (talk) 01:36, 4 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Turn into a disambig page Since pages for USA and Canada exist, this page would be a good disambig page to send people looking for such subjects to the appropriate sub-lists. Since we have lists for other continents, it's reasonable that viewers will expect to find a list for North America as well. Regards SoWhy 07:40, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That's what I was envisioning with the keep portion of my lvote, though it wouldn't be a dab page, but rather a list of lists. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:59, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.