Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Norway's biggest landowners


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Renaming discussion can continue on the article's talk page. Rlendog (talk) 14:52, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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The compilation of this list appears to be original synthesis by the article's original creator,. The article was originally created on the Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia by Oasorgard on March 2, 2012 and translated into English a couple of weeks thereafter by another user (Oasorgard has only made one minor edit to our article). In the original article there is information that the list has been compiled from information found at the Brønnøysund Register Centre, a website called Proff, as well as the homepages of the various property owners. As the list is currently referenced this is very hard to verify. In any case, the creation of this article does seem to violate some fundamental policy of Wikipedia as named above. meco (talk) 11:47, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. meco (talk) 11:47, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Norway-related deletion discussions. meco (talk) 11:47, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment The topic of the article is clearly encyclopedic, but I agree that there are some verification difficulties. The information needs to be verified from sources independent of the company itself, but in many cases this should be a simple matter. I am also uncertain why Svalbard is arbitrarily left out. The article definitive needs a major formatting clean-up, but that is irrelevant for the AfD. Personally I would tend to think that the article would be more encyclopaedic if there was a cut-off of a round number by size (100 km2 seems natural to me) rather than a specific number of entries. Arsenikk (talk)  08:06, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep I've formatted the article to make it better and added some proper refs. All owners related to Svalbard, Nord-Trøndelag and all commons are referenced, so I don't believe it meets the OR criteria any more. Arsenikk (talk)  11:27, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment The list look ok after you have formatted it, and a cut-off of a round number by size as 100 km2 seems natural. Maby the Norwegian version should be formatted like this too. --Oasorgard (talk) 14:27, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

It has been claimed that the list allegedly is original research. I do not agree. However, this suggestion might improve the article: Remove the numbering and (already done) rename the article List of major landowners in Norway. &mdash;&#32; Breadbasket 18:37, 21 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment That is a good suggestion to rename the article List of major landowners in Norway. Note to meco: The compilation and creation of this list (the Norwegian version) have been done by me. I have compiled information found at the Brønnøysund Register Centre, Proff, as well as the homepages of the various property owners. But maby I should have made more references to where I exactly have found the information about the area and the ultimate owners. --Oasorgard (talk) 01:28, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I would have preferred "list of the largest landowners of Norway". "Largest" is more formal than "biggest", while it is better English to write "of Norway" than "Norway's" (this is distinctly different from Norwegian syntax). As for OR concerns: using reliable sources such as Brønnøysund and Proff to do research is quite fine, but there needs to be a specific source for every entry, including "ultimate owner" and the size. Arsenikk (talk)  06:40, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment That is a good suggestion too to rename the article List of the largest landowners of Norway. Mvh Oasorgard (talk) 19:47, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - as Arsenikk states, this is encyclopedic material and after his improvements I don't find this article violating WP:OR. Just a note on the suggestions to move this article: this should be done after the AfD has been closed Mentoz86 (talk) 12:27, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:33, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. Very well-put-together article.  Notable, definitely, and well-written.  LogicalCreator (talk) 04:11, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep but move per above. I personally favor "largest" over "major" from the above suggestions. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 18:27, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.