Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Novair destinations


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  12:59, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

List of Novair destinations

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Also nominating:
 * List of Orbest Orizonia Airlines destinations
 * List of Palmair destinations
 * List of Qazaq Air destinations
 * List of Régional destinations

Per the 2018 RFC on airline destination lists, these are not appropriate content for Wikipedia. As recommended in the subsequent AN discussion, these are being nominated for deletion via AFD in orderly fashion.

Briefly, these are all a failure of WP:NOT, particularly WP:NOTCATALOGUE. This is because they are articles solely directed to listing the services provided by a commercial enterprises on a particular date, that date typically having no actual relevance except it was the day on which the article-creator checked the airline's website. They are ultimately no different to an article that lists all of the multiplex outlets of Cineworld on 3 June 2013. Wikipedia is not advertising or service-hosting space for commercial enterprises.

A further issue here is WP:CORP, which applies to articles dedicated to the products and services offered by a company. The sourcing in none of these articles would pass that standard. The coverage in all of these articles derives principally from the airline itself and is therefore clearly not independent of it as required by WP:ORGIND. The only possible exception to this is the |Kazinform reference in the Qazaq Air article, however this is clearly not significant coverage since it is only two sentences, and is anyway about future plans and thus WP:CRYSTALBALL. Additionally Kazinform are the Kazakh state news outlet and they are quoting the Kazakh air authority (whose source is likely the airline itself) so independence is suspect.

For some of these articles, the original source is 404 (e.g., Orbest Orizonia Airlines), or there is no source at all (e.g., Régional), making these also a WP:V failure.

WP:BEFORE searching for additional sources is not mandatory, particularly where the failure of the article is not only one of notability as in this case. However, I did carry out a necessarily brief (given the number of articles) search for each one and found nothing that would fix the WP:CORP failures. Instead I found only non-independent/reliable ticket-sales websites, aggregators, run-of-the-mill reports in industry-press, this DVD produced by Novair, and reports in local newspapers like the Bournemouth Daily Echo. FOARP (talk) 12:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Aviation, Lists, Kazakhstan, France, Spain, Sweden,  and United Kingdom. FOARP (talk) 12:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all These lists are textbook WP:IINFO, ephemeral and not maintainable (as evidenced by the fact that List of Orbest Orizonia Airlines destinations has a note explaining that it's accurate as of 11 years ago!). Also, the 2018 RFC seems applicable here.  -- Jayron 32 14:05, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Accurate as of December 2012, but the link in the article says February 2010, so even that part.... And in between those dates the destinations listed changed massively, because airline destinations change all the time making exhaustively listing them pointless. FOARP (talk) 15:03, 18 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete all per Jayron32 and FOARP Flalf Talk 15:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all NOTCATALOGUE, maintenance requirements also untenable. Draken Bowser (talk) 15:37, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, this is time-sensitive catalogue information of a transient nature which we can't offer as an encyclopedia. /Julle (talk) 23:29, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete all per the nominator and WP:IINFO. Nythar  (💬-🍀) 01:28, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. The person who loves reading (talk) 02:03, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.