Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Now That's What I Call Music! albums


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Keep - jc37 07:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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Nominating this list, all the album "articles" on the list a and the 200 or so album "articles" Special:What links here/List of Now... about albums in the non-notable series for deletion. This list and these albums do not meet Notability (music). Per the guideline "All articles on albums or songs must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines" Jeepday (talk) 16:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all Yes all. They can never expand to have things like a wide range of reviews, production, themes, background info etc. None of the albums can ever reach GA status because all it can ever be is a track list. Spellcast (talk) 16:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all Notability is far from met. --LeyteWolfer (talk) 16:31, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete the nominated article and only because the main article Now That's What I Call Music has the navigation aids already. I'm sorry, but if you think that you've nominated other stuff by adding a link to represent the 200 articles you don't like ("Special:What links here/List of Now..."), you're kidding yourself.  What a laugh.  Mandsford (talk) 16:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment WP:MUSIC and WP:N are only guidelines. But there may be a case here - the album series is notable (the original nominator's allegation that this is a "non-notable series" clearly hasn't read the parent article), but this is making me think about whether the individual albums are in and of themselves. WP:MUSIC doesn't seem to satisfactorily cover compilation albums (there's obviously no way to "merge it into the article for the original artist") - and attempting to have the articles deleted in this (frankly lazy) manner is not a way to address that. Kinitawowi (talk) 18:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep A master list like this is fine, and deleting 200+ articles in one go is a bit extreme. I'd suggest breaking it down by different countries so that notability can be more easily assessed.  I highly doubt the individual albums are notable, but there are too many here to tell.  Also, when nominating multiple articles, you need to place each article in the AfD and place an AfD tag on every article. --Phirazo (talk) 19:15, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There was once around 200 mixtapes in Category:Mixtape albums, now there's 30. The albums in the above article are no different. All they'll ever be is a track list with no info to develop into a comprehensive article. Spellcast (talk) 19:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You're probably right, but deleting 200 articles (without tagging them) in one go isn't the way to do this. I think this AfD should have been split among the countries. --Phirazo (talk) 17:29, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep one of the most notable and arguably the highest selling compelation CD series in both the US and UK. Any compelation series that has TWO HUNDRED albums is awful notable Doc Strange (talk) 20:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Now That's What I Call Music has been such a successful series in the UK that it has prompted the creation of a separate compilation albums chart because until then it dominated the regular album chart. Notable by all means. The Seventh Taylor (talk) 21:37, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just because a compilation chart exists, it doesn't mean each album is notable. Look at any article in Category:GA-Class Album articles. None of the Now That's What I Call Music! compilations can expand from a track list because there's no significant coverage. I doubt the 200+ pages can be deleted in this AfD, so they'll probably be taken in groups. Also, there was a similar AfD at Articles for deletion/WOW Hits. Spellcast (talk) 12:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * KEEP - a very good site with an overview of a worldwide series. How many other cd-series exists in so many countries and with so much success? (talk) 15:35, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - master list of a long-running and influential series with international distribution. Squidfryerchef (talk) 19:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep all Non-notable series?! From the parent article Now That's What I Call Music!: "The sheer longevity and ubiquity of the Now! series in the UK has led to its becoming something of a cultural icon." A reliable source if that statement is doubted: "The collections of pop, urban, and generally teen-oriented singles were the most successful in the history of the recording industry. The consortium of labels sharing the releases of the various NOW albums claimed sales of more than 37 million units in the United States and 53 million worldwide by 2003. Several of the units debuted at Number 1 in Billboard's album chart." For the UK Now #2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 reaching UK No. 1 see this book. "The brand's so famous it's entered the language" "the most successful branded compilation ever launched in the music business" "For the first time in Billboard magazine history, a multi-artist album that isn't a soundtrack made its debut at the top of the pop charts this week, "Now That's What I Call Music! 4."" "NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC! VOLUME 16 Debuts at #1 in the Billboard Top 200 Album Chart" Oodles of independent coverage, some examples of reviews I found in 2 minutes on Google News:, , ,    , ,  . That is just for the UK and the US releases. The UK Now regularly tops the charts in Ireland, and I have no doubt that releases in other countries also do the same. The 1980s Now albums are valued by collectors. Most of the songs on the tracklists are notable and bluelinked, so these album articles are a great way to explore the popular songs of a certain year. These albums are in no way comparable to mixtapes. No possibility of an article reaching GA status is not a reason for deletion. Bláthnaid 13:19, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Since each of the albums can only be a perma-stub, they should probably be mentioned in this article with their chart positions, if any. The singles that make up the albums are obviously notable, but it doesn't mean the albums are. Anyway, this AfD is only about the list. So I favour keeping this list but definitely not the albums! Spellcast (talk) 15:11, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The nominator said the series was non-notable and nominated all of the album articles, so I made my case for all of the albums being notable and verifiable. An album that reached #1 in the charts is notable on its own merits. In the UK the vast majority, if not all, of the albums charted. The sources can be used to add encyclopaedic information about sales figures, how long the albums were in the charts, reviews, etc. What's wrong with a well-presented, useful, short and sweet stub? Bláthnaid 19:30, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The only thing worth mentioning is the chart positions and sales. And they can simply be mentioned in this list instead of its own article. Also, they don't have any reviews. It's much better to merge the most relevant info into one article instead of having 200 perma-stubs. Spellcast (talk) 08:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Reviews:      . "Every NOW volume has been certified platinum or better by the RIAA" . I'll add some information to some of the articles, but unfortunately a lot of the articles are behind paywalls and I can't access them. Bláthnaid 21:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok so there's reviews for a small handful of them. But I just can't support permanent stubs. It's so much better to merge the most relevant info (in this case, the sales and charts) into this list. Spellcast (talk) 02:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Nominated Article and Keep Individual Album Articles - In the terms of the nominated article it is quite unecessary because we have already have a template for this on the main page for NWTICM and each individual album page. As to the individual album pages each album is notable under WP:Music (major record label release, most have reviews, contains notable music, et cetera) and therefore an article with a track listing for each one is in order - this is an encyclopedia after all, people might want to know what's on each one. A1octopus (talk) 23:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


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