Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Official Slasher Movies.


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 17:00, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

List of Official Slasher Movies.

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Delete - indiscriminate list loaded with original research. There is no such thing as an "official slasher movie". Harley Hudson (talk) 05:41, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is. An "official" slasher movie is a movie said to be a slasher movie by relevant sources (critics, film specialists) whatever their country is as long as their notability has been established (which is the case with mine. Feel free to check.) The word "official" is a way to let people know this list shouldn't include "Child's Play" or "Hellraiser" which are NOT slasher movies (ask any movie critic) contrarily to what Wikipedia/editors have let the creator of the Slasher film article state...CouchJarvis (talk) 09:41, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 19:36, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete- inherently original research. The article seems to be advocating that there is such a thing as an "official" slasher movie, and trying to convince people that certain movies ought to be included. Read the comments in parentheses sprinkled throughout the article and it'll be obvious that it's a lot of personal opinions. Reyk  YO!  20:50, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Once again, there is nothing personal about me claiming there are official slasher movies and unofficial slasher movies. It's a mere fact relayed by critics and movie specialists. Now, if only a word ("official") is bothering you, I have no real problem with it (the word "official", that is) being removed from the title. After all, the list in itself matters and not the title it goes by. Still, it won't change a thing about how relevant the sources cited are and what movies this list should or should not include.
 * As for the comments in parentheses (which I have added myself as informative bonuses...), they are just comments formulated by the same critics and specialists in books and magazines I use as references about slasher movies and who STILL STATE those cases seen as arguable or exceptional are INDEED slashers. Please check the history before accusing me of displaying personal thoughts on this topic (which I care too much for to allow myself to do that.)79.86.191.235 (talk) 22:45, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, to pick a random example, look at the entry for Nightmare (1981 film). Nowhere in the film's article, or the single source it draws on, is the film called a "slasher film". In your commentary in parentheses you present an argument that the film doesn't technically meet the requirements but should be included anyway. Where is the source that justifies this? Really, this list could be more accurately titled List of movies considered slashers by CouchJarvis according to criteria invented by CouchJarvis. Reyk  YO!  08:39, 10 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. I can sort of understand the idea of having an article titled List of slasher movies (note lack of excess capitalization or punctuation and removal of the word "official") which would cover this specific subgenre. But this particular article lacks reliable sources to indicate that the particular films listed are, in fact, slasher movies (something I would expect given the article's focus on a precise definition of the subgenre and which films should be excluded from it). Most of the references are just to the Internet Movie Database pages for the redlinked films, which is a decent source for establishing that the films exist but not that the films necessarily meet the definition of "slasher movie". Also, the «guillemets» need to be removed, as they are not standard punctuation in English. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:47, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. I was unaware that there was an official governing body certifying slasher movies. Oh wait, there isn't. Far too arbitrary and subjective. Movie critics and "specialists" have no more authority to deem a movie as an "official" slasher movie than I do. At most, it's an educated opinion. Not even worthy of renaming as "List of slasher movies", as the term is too ambiguous and too subjective, and a category would suffice (if it were even necessary).Agent 86 (talk) 00:40, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: No doubt the creator of this essay can find a home for it on his personal website. Wikipedia, of course, is not a web host.  Unsourced WP:NOR violation.   Ravenswing  06:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. See Articles for deletion/List of slasher films and Category:Slasher films.  While it's an old discussion I don't see that anything has changed.  Eluchil404 (talk) 06:53, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank most of you for your constructive comments. Even though it seems hard for you to understand the criteria I've focused on are not personal (otherwise, some of the films I've included in the list, I wouldn't have...believe me) and if those claiming it took some time to take a look into the sources cited and their work, they might realize it...I won't even start adding my own cynicism to this conversation since some of you, whose tone (and obvious self-importance) make them reach the limit of profound disrespect, already have more than necessary. So, here's what I'll do...I'll remove "official" from the title and such, add a few references from specialized websites (American or European) for tricky cases and remove the guillemets, in accordance with the standard English punctuation. (My bad.)CouchJarvis (talk) 11:42, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * If anything, Eluchil404 has provided even stronger evidence supporting deletion of this article. If "List of slasher films" isn't capable of forming an article, this one certainly cannot.Agent 86 (talk) 11:05, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I've showed a will to change some of the aspects of it that bothered you (I just can't remove "official" from the title as it appears which, I suspect, only wikipedia can now). And I've started adding references for tricky cases. Plus some of the comments I read were wrong (the one stating nothing in the source supporting the article for "Nightmare" claimed it was a slasher movie is wrong...In the "review" section of it, it is precisely described as one.) The "equivalent" category I was led into checking is filled with mistakes (basically, including many movies with a killer and/or gory effects...which doesn't make a slasher movie). This list has been conceived as a tool aimed at helping people interested in this particular sub-genre (apparently worthy of attention enough to deserve its own Wikipedia article) to discover more films. Once again, if this list has no point in existing, then I'm afraid all of the lists you can find on wikipedia should be deleted too. Please explain to me what makes this list different from this one (for instance): List of New Wave bands and artists. CouchJarvis (talk) 11:19, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
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