Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Olympic-size swimming pools in the Republic of Ireland


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   No Consensus, there is no consensus here on the merits or lack of merits of this list. Davewild (talk) 17:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

List of Olympic-size swimming pools in the Republic of Ireland

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Non notable list. Does not satisfy WP:Note RogueNinja talk  03:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: Pointless article. WP:NOTDIR. – Jerry  teps  04:07, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I hardly think that constitutes a valid justification - would you care to elaborate? Nick Cooper (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete, I agree with the above. J I P  | Talk 06:26, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per above.  Black  ngold29   07:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: A precisely defined list of notable sports venues. Possession of Olympic-size swimming pools is commonly used as a measure of a country's sports' infrastructure. --mervyn (talk) 08:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: well-defined list, important as per Mervyn; article has had input from a large number of editors over 20 months, and WP would not benefit from its deletion.PamD (talk) 11:41, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: A precisely defined list of notable sports venues. --Vintagekits (talk) 11:49, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep: As per Mervyn, Pam D & Vintagekits. Like List of Olympic-size swimming pools in the United Kingdom (which RogueNinja has also proposed for deletion), it covers a subject of great importance within swimming in the country in question, due to the relative rarity of such venues in both. As noted above, I do not think those who wish to delete the page have presented anything remotely like a valid justication for doing so. Nick Cooper (talk) 11:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: As per all the keep arguements given above. Dpmuk (talk) 13:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTDIR and WP:NOTCASE. Most of the listings are not internal links to other Wikipedia articles, but are external links to the sites of the pools themselves. Few pools, regardless of size, are truly notable. Sebwite (talk) 16:13, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: As per various keeps above, notable subject within the country in question. Claire Bassett (talk) 19:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. What exactly makes these pools notable sports venues?  They may be venues, but no assertion for nobility is provided. Being of a specific size in this case does not mean that anything notable happens there.  Vegaswikian (talk) 18:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - these are surely the swimming equivalent of major football grounds and sports stadia, and thus notable: it is difficult to think that each of these pools, like major football grounds and sports stadia, would not merit an individual article. The usual objections apply to the "replace with category" argument: categories don't show missing articles, and a list allows quick comparison between different items, much quicker than having to go through very article in a category one after the other.HeartofaDog (talk) 17:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Not every stadium is notable, an a stadium's size does not make it automatically notable. Per WP:L and WP:NOTDIR, a list like this one is supposed to primarily consist of links to other Wikipedia articles or probable future ones, which in this case would be pools that either have articles or would likely qualify for them. This list appears to be one that provides external links to the sites of these seemingly non-notable pools, which is more like a yellow pages entry. unsigned comment by User:Sebwite 05:58, 10 August 2008
 * Comment No-one is saying that every swimming pool / stadium etc is notable - just the, umm... notable ones. The claim to notability here is that Olympic-sized pools ARE significant in their own right (except perhaps in those very few countries that have so many that they cease to have individual significance) and more specifically so here because there are only two such pools (+ one also-ran) in the whole of the Republic of Ireland.


 * As for links, of the three pools, two are already covered by articles on the larger facilities of which they form part, which doubtless can be expanded, and which the list already links to; and there seems no reason why the third should not also have an article. It seems illogical then to object to the inclusion of the relevant external links as well. HeartofaDog (talk)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.