Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Philippine Presidents by children


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. Avi 19:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

List of Philippine Presidents by children

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Delete - there is no reason for this list. Listing heads of state by the number or names of children is trivia. The information belongs in the individual articles for the individual presidents. It appears to already be in each of the individual articles, so no need to merge. Otto4711 22:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as pure, unneeded listcruft, unless a very useful reason to keep this can be provided. J Milburn 22:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Fairly useless list. Static Universe talk 22:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT. Black Falcon 01:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Total cruft. What is it with these lists of Philippine presidents anyway? I must say I'm disappointed that List of Philippine Presidents by number of Pokemon cards they've collected doesn't exist though.--Folantin 10:09, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletions.   -- SkierRMH 02:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - useless list, WP:NOT. Moreschi Deletion! 14:47, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. I like Philippinians, but don't like usless lists. --MaNeMeBasat 18:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - OK, if there's no reason for this list, then Children of the Prime Ministers of Canada should also be nominated for AfD! If it will not be included for AfD, then I will not allow the List of Philippine Presidents by children to be deleted also. - Kevin Ray 05:25, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Go ahead and nominate it for deletion if you want. I'll vote to get rid of that one too. --Folantin 09:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - I've nominated that page for deletion. Moreschi Deletion! 13:05, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep obviously. I don't see anything wrong with this. If we have a list of pets of US presidents, surely children of Philippino Presidents can't be a bad thing. I mean, the World Almanac mentions how many children each President has in a list, why can't Wikipedia? -- Earl Andrew - talk 19:06, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. For the same reason that Wikipedia doesn't have Game FAQs and recipes. WP:USEFUL Oh, and WP:INN, though if that pet list does exist, then IMHO it should go as well. Shrumster 14:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:LC. Stifle (talk) 22:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Very informative when comparing or just learning more history on the Presidents of the Philippines. Their children are part of their legacy.  Who knew Corazon Aquino's first daughter's nickname was Ballsy?  I do now!  The list just needs to be expanded with date of birth, etc. Jjmillerhistorian 14:53, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. And what use is that? Sounds like trivia to me. WP:TRIVIA Shrumster 14:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Of course, a nickname is trivia, but a list of children of world leaders is not. Some of these children become more notable then others, especially those put in the spotlight or have a political future because of their political parent's status.  They would most likely be considered 'nobodys' if they were not children of these leaders.  They play an important part in the life of the leader.  Look at the Bush twins, they have done nothing notable, yet because their father is President of the U.S. they have become notable.  Take away his Presidency and his daughters wouldn't even have an article in Wikipedia.  Same goes for Chelsea Clinton, no Bill and "who's that girl?"  Being a child of a world leader is notable. Jjmillerhistorian 13:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep - More than in Canada, being a child of a President here gives a person potential political importance. See also proposed guideline Notability (royalty). Johnbod 18:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. "Potential" political importance does not translate to actual importance. When they do something notable, then they get articles. Not before. We don't keep articles on WP on people just on the off-chance that that person "might" do something notable. Shrumster 14:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, a list should only be created if itself is a legitimate encyclopedic topic per WP:LC... 20:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - excellent example of WP:NOT. &mdash; MrDolomite | Talk 15:52, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


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