Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Prime Ministers of New Zealand with facial hair


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 05:44, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

List of Prime Ministers of New Zealand with facial hair

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A good example of listcruft, but entirely non-notable. It's unreferenced and I would be rather surprised if reliable sources could be found that discussed the issue at stake - facial hair of New Zealand prime ministers. It needs to be acknowledged that there is a List of Presidents of the United States with facial hair, it is well referenced, they do have sources that discuss their presidents' facial hair, and the article has been to AfD three times, with a strong keep tendency. Whilst that article meets WP:GNG, this one doesn't. A separate issue is that this article violates WP:OR; given there are no sources, the only way to compile the list is by evaluating photos.  Schwede 66  18:25, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. North America1000 18:29, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. North America1000 18:30, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. North America1000 18:31, 18 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete I would argue that all these articles make no sense in their naming. People can have large amounts of facial hair even at times when they regularly shave it off.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:48, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Shave it off. Unlike US presidents, NZ PMs haven't had their hair scrutinized by scholars. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:46, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as it doesn't appear to be a notable topic. Mattlore (talk) 09:12, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable and unencyclopedic, based on original research, devoid of any independent sources. WWGB (talk) 02:15, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - This distinction does not appear to have been made by independent reliable sources, unlike for US presidents. Fieari (talk) 05:14, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Unencyclopedic listcruft. DerbyCountyinNZ  (Talk Contribs) 04:16, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not encyclopedic and irrelevant topic and content. XXN, 08:30, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. I know a lot of people find this fascinating. It's a good example of how styles change over the years. Ksylatron. —Preceding undated comment added 08:33, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
 * See also: Articles for deletion/List of Presidents of the United States with facial hair (2nd nomination). XXN, 08:30, 21 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete Utterly stupid.  E Eng  04:37, 26 September 2016 (UTC)


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