Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom by date of death


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. All "keep" opinions are by socks or by otherwise not established editors (i.e., possible socks). These opinions are therefore discounted.  Sandstein  09:41, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom by date of death

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Same concerns apply as the recent decision to delete List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom by date of birth, namely cruftiness and OR.  Chrism  would like to hear from you 13:41, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2015 August 25.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 13:47, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per all the arguments put forward in the previous debate. Listcruft. --Randykitty (talk) 14:00, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Definitely "not" WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH. Boy Named Stu (talk) 14:43, 25 August 2015 (UTC) User:Boy Named Stu is the creator of this list. Disclosure added per WP:AFDFORMAT.
 * Comment So I see that you don't contest the claim that this is listcruft... --Randykitty (talk) 15:04, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment It isn't listcruft. Boy Named Stu (talk) 15:49, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep, doesn't seem like cruft to me, either. -208.81.148.195 (talk) 17:06, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:15, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:41, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:41, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Once again my argument is the same in this as it is the other debates on British PMs. Highly notable topics do not qualify as WP:LISTCRUFT. Halftime Hero (talk) 04:57, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:32, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment' I think a pertinent question here is: Do we really need List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom by date of death, List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom by date of birth (AfD closed as redirect), List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom by age (AfD closed as keep) and Living Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom (AfD closed as no consensus) on top of Records of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom and List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom? I don't think that juggling the same few personages around in neverending permutations is of any use. Kraxler (talk) 01:50, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment There are endless articles of the same statistics on Presidents of the United States. Articles such as these should definitely be reserved for the highest offices e.g. Presidents of the United States, Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom, etc. These ones just summarize the statistics of each of the respective topics on British PMs more clearly and more concisely than List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom and Records of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom. There should definitely be more articles like these on world leaders in more countries of the world. Every country in the world, (particularly a well established democracy like Britain) should have similar articles like these. Boy Named Stu (talk) 11:15, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: No country in the world should have similar collections of trivia. As for the US articles: WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. --Randykitty (talk) 11:25, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment All high offices of the world deserve similar summaries of statistics like the US articles: WP:POLITICIANS, WP:NOTABILITY. Especially all of the well established ones. I can fully understand why the newer countries wouldn't have them, but in a country that's even older than the US it certainly warrants them. I think I'll leave it at that. Boy Named Stu (talk) 12:52, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I've blocked a few socks, and semi-protected this. Boy named Stu, Halftime hero, and Yawnfully Yellow are all socks. Courcelles (talk) 00:51, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete These lists are sortable. If we have one article like this with all significant dates in columns (birth; death; assumed office; left office), the user can sort as he or she pleases. --Slashme (talk) 00:06, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment If we only had one article with all of the relevant dates it'd still be one very long article. This one sums up the summary of the deaths of British PMs perfectly, and more importantly, it keeps it brief, which certainly wouldn't be the case if we had everything on one article. My decision for "keep" still stands. Halftime Hero (talk) 16:12, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems like a highly worthy article to me. I wish there was articles similar to this on Australian PMs. Yawnfully Yellow (talk) 14:00, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles (talk) 00:51, 9 September 2015 (UTC) Keep Passes WP:NOTABILITY I can't see any reason for deleting it. I also reckon his article has to exist in it's own right as opposed to merging it with List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom. ...And Five (talk) 11:45, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment – Content from blocked socks above has been struck, per WP:SOCKSTRIKE. North America1000 02:55, 9 September 2015 (UTC)


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