Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Quebec Hip Hop artists


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The result was Speedy delete by author request.. Carlossuarez46 05:00, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

List of Quebec Hip Hop artists

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Recommended deletion per WP:NOT. Nen yedi  • (Deeds•Talk) 02:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT and no evidence of any of the redlinks being notable. Dbromage  [Talk]  02:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom and above. GlassCobra 02:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep This article needs to be considered in the scope that Quebec is nation within Canada with its own distinct culture. Most of these artists are notables on the Quebec Hip Hop scene. It is based of List of Swedish Hip Hop artists which is not for deletion and these artists are arguably equally notables. Lotheric 02:15, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument. Dbromage  [Talk]  02:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'll give you that. Then ignore the last sentence of my post. Lotheric 02:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Quebec is not a nation within Canada. It is a province within Canada.  Until the legal definition changes, this is a POV argument. Resolute 04:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I beg to differ Lotheric 04:34, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The opinions of one man, even the Prime Minsiter, do not change Quebec's legal status. Resolute 04:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * and what does legality has anything to do with nation in the cultural sense? Lotheric 04:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The imprecise nature of your argument in defence of this list. Quebec is not a nation within Canada, so this argument does not carry any weight. The scope is no different than List of Alberta Hip Hop artists, which would undoubtably fare similarly in AfD as this article is thus far.  Arguing a split based on language, rather than province is a better way around this issue, imo. Resolute 04:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Aside from the article listing exactly six rappers with WP articles (and dozens without), it contains no information that a category couldn't provide (aside from what language they rap in, but that's really not enough to maintain a list versus a category). -- Kicking222 03:00, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete I suppose an article on French-Canadian rap might be notable, but a bare bones list such as this does not accomplish anything a category does not. If the sources exist, I would suggest turning this into a full fledged article, documenting the history, notable artists, etc.  Resolute 04:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree, and after reading arguments here, I'm changing my position. My intention was to do a list and then articles for artists in it. Instead I'll start with the articles and do a list afterwards (or as suggested, category would make sense). Lotheric 04:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I think an article on French language rap could indeed be very interesting. Resolute 04:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Why limit it to French-Canadian? Francophone rap in general would be notable and could be the basis of a very encyclopedic article. The genre catching on in West Africa. There's your challenge, now go to it! :) If you have changed your view on this list and want to start again, you may tag the article with .  Dbromage  [Talk]  04:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * For the same reason there's a Canadian hip hop and American hip hop or Belgian hip hop and French hip hop. Lotheric 04:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


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