Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Railway Stations in Japan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was DELETE main list and sublists.  Rob e  rt  23:55, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

List_of_Railway_Stations_in_Japan
Old, incomplete list sorted by non-English order. Not used anywhere, and category is better Neier 00:54, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Also, there are 21 related sub-pages listed in this Afd entry. Rather than clutter the main Afd page with more entries, I think it is ok to list them like that because there is no reason to delete only a portion of these pages. They all form a miniature ecosystem which nothing seems to be using or updating. If they need to be busted out and listed one at a time on the Afd page, then I can do that. Neier 01:24, 2 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. Category:Railway_stations_of_Japan should be used instead - Neier 00:54, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I second this. --MacRusgail 13:21, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * If you second User:Neier's opinion, please make a "delete" vote. -Nameneko 01:15, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and create category as mentioned. --MacRusgail 13:12, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. A new system similar to the ja.wikipedia's categories (sorted by regions and prefectures) should be created. -Nameneko 01:36, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. This entire complex was apparently the personal project of ScottKuberski, who has been inactive since July 11, 2004 .  It seems unlikely that anyone else will take up the project in this form. Chick Bowen 01:47, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Category is better. Andrew pmk | Talk 01:58, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I thought it was established that lists and categories are both allowed for a given area. UK railway stations and Category:British railway stations both exist so these articles have a right to exist. -- RHaworth 08:12, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The reason this is being listed for deletion is because it's 1) in a non-English order and 2) is a personal project of an inactive Wikipedian. It isn't so much a matter of whether the category deserves a list or not, but a matter how poorly that list is written.  If/When this is deleted, I'm sure it will be fine to completely redo the lists in a format that makes sense, if anyone it up to it. -Nameneko 18:58, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment Can we move this whole complex to the Wikipedia namespace somewhere to keep the structure, links etc.? Although some have few or no entries, some have lots. It would be useful to have a list of names of stations (red links) for expansion. But it does little good as an article as it is (with nobody working on it). Fg2 08:16, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * There are two lists of the 21 which may be nearly complete: SA and A. I think those two lists of station names is a nice resource, so moving them to another place for safekeeping is a good idea.  But even then, I wouldn't want to consider them to be canonical (I haven't checked -- it seems pretty thorough, but that just means that the gaps will be harder to spot).  I've started an unofficial project to build a set of templates for each railway line, similar to the prefecture or state templates (the templates list each station on a specific line, similar to listing each city of a state, etc).  Category:Templates_for_Railway_Lines_of_Japan   As that moves forward, then that may be another place to collect red links, and in a localized manner at that.  It is still in its infancy, but help in filling in other lines is definitely welcome.Neier 02:57, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I took the Japanese lists from ja:日本の鉄道駅一覧 and played a bunch of perl games with them. The net result is that I have a list of romaji names for the ~9000 stations, along with (PREFECTURE) on most of the ones which need them.  Until this current mess is cleaned up, I've stuck them in my User:Neier/Sandbox/TrainList.  There is still some work to be done with the names on the list, such as bad romaji, and also several disambiguations that we need that the Japanese site didn't (like Izumi-Chuo Station) because the kanji is different, but the romaji is the same.  Once there is a clean slate, I'll move the sandbox into a List of xyz structure (after wikifying the romaji names, red-links and all).  Feel free to fix things in the sandbox until then. - Neier 12:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - ample precedent for lists that are redundant with categories. Snowspinner 21:07, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Nameneko's quite right--the reduncancy with the category is not the issue. The issue is that ScottKuberski only finished the list for A, and nobody's going to finish the rest because the people who care would prefer to organize such a list geographically rather than by Japanese spelling, as it is organized here. Chick Bowen 02:34, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Right. I suppose the "category is better" at the end of my afd entry is ill-placed.Neier 02:57, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Incomplete (actually barely started) list, abandoned and unmaintained. Quale 08:11, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, but without prejudice for another list with a different structure. Lists of stations are valid if they present the information differently from what a category would. The problem as I see it is that this list tries to list the stations in alphabetical order, and without any descriptions on the page, it is very redundant with the category. A list which ordered the stations according to railway line or by geographical location (district/region/whatever) however, would be valid. Sjakkalle (Check!)  09:47, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

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