Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Republican politicians who support same sex marriage


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  00:37, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

List of Republican politicians who support same sex marriage

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Not sure if this is an encyclopedic cross-categorization explicitly verifiable with reliable sources. It implies that Republicans by default do not support same-sex marriage, which may well be true, but this title is inherently biased (failing WP:NPOV). Additionally, the list may be in a constant state of flux because personal viewpoints need not be permanent (unlike articles that explicitly detail who voted on what bill – that is established information and will not change). It also seems that votes on a bill are used as an inclusion criterion – again, this may be true, but has a hint of original research because there may be other factors influencing votes and may not be a fully representative sample. Complex / Rational 19:23, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and United States of America.  Complex / Rational  19:23, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:57, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:14, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep well-referenced, valid concept. Don't agree with nom that it's de-facto implied POV. Andre🚐 20:02, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The use of a vote a particular way on a particular bill as justification for inclusion in the list is complete WP:SYNTH.  It's not possible to define "support" in any clear way here, especially that doesn't run afoul of WP:INDISCRIMINATE.  The scope of this list is also fairly unclear -- it only seems to include House and Senate members rather than non-serving politicians, or those serving at other levels of government, making it even more of an unencyclopedic cross-categorization.  There's also a pretty blatant failure of WP:LISTN here.  Some of these sources might be usable to support prose concerning the overall shifting attitudes of congressional Republicans and American politicians in general.  But trying to keep any sort of list like this is doomed to futility. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:51, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - At the moment, this list largely appears to be a fork of the Respect for Marriage Act, especially by citing votes on that bill as a proxy criterium for determining support. Its possible scope is so enormous it would almost better be treated as a category. In 10 years, will we really want an WP:indiscriminate of all the Republican politicians who support gay marriage? What about a list of those who oppose it (if we're being fair)? The former could grow to encompass thousands, and the latter already probably would if it were created. This topic, such as it could be covered, would be better served by a prose article of the likes of "Same-sex marriage and the Republican Party in the United States" or "Same-sex marriage and politics in the United States". -Indy beetle (talk) 08:04, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per Indy beetle and IP 35.xx; voting lists aren't encyclopedic. And some Republicans will have more complex views than simply "support" or "oppose". Ovinus (talk) 15:39, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


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