Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of S.H.E Endorsements


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete.  Daniel Bryant  08:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

List of S.H.E Endorsements

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For one thing, the article is essentially written in Chinese so I can only guess what the actual content is. But it seems like a pretty trivial collection of fandom information. It's not even clear in this context what exactly constitutes an endorsement and I certainly wouldn't like to see articles like these mushrooming all over for various artists. Pascal.Tesson 05:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I haven't formatted it because I haven't had the time to translate it all, but it is essentially a list to complement the actual S.H.E article to inform readers of the products that they've endorsed. This is why I labelled this article a list. I was planning on setting up a wiki table to show the years that S.H.E endorsed certain products. And before you call this "mere fandom," please go over to the S.H.E article and see for yourself the sheer amount of work I've put into it just to give it the depth of information that it has now. Again, this article is here so I don't have to elaborate on every single endorsement on the already existing endorsements section. However, I could just as well make mini blurbs on every single product and go on another massive Google hunt, if that's what you want. - Pandacomics 18:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well kudos for improving the S.H.E. article but I believe the question is: if you think this isn't important enough to put in the main article, why do you believe it deserves a separate article. And why do you think this list has encyclopedic value? Pascal.Tesson 18:38, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not putting it in the main article because the article is already too big. 10,000+ words is more than enough. I've had to move other items off the main article, such as the endorsements page, so as to maintain an informative purpose by not overbloating the main article. Not to say that this has any relation to sport, but listing specific endorsements on a page is about as informative as putting up year-by-year standings of the English Premiership League. It's "trivial," as you say, but it contains information that simply complements the main article without being disruptive (by staying as a separate entity while linked to the main item). - Pandacomics 19:05, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to S.H.E. The root article is indeed unwieldy, but the split still has to hold its own weight - so unto itself, a large article is not always a sufficient reason to split.  --Dennisthe2 20:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If you find it unwieldy, please peer review it. I put up a request nine days ago, with absolutely zero response. Even articles like Miriam Rivera are getting responses. - Pandacomics 04:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Daniel Bryant  03:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete I think putting a list of products that are endorsed by a particular performing group is a very poor idea, and the very essence of linkspam. So I would oppose including this information anywhere, unless a particular endorsement became very notable, which does sometime happen. DGG 06:43, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete . This type of list has no encyclopediac merit, Any notable endorsements can be kept in the main article. Editors need to remember that it is NOT necessary to list every piece of available information to make a complete article, else we end up with a list of grades of steel used in railway wheels on the Boston and Maine Railroad. - Peripitus (Talk) 11:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete not English, and canonical fancruft anyway. I am intrigued by the idea of a list of grades of steel, however... Guy (Help!) 23:45, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is essentially delving to the realm of trivia. If there is a strong identification of the group to a particular product or set of products, then it can be included in the main article. -- Whpq 15:49, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails on so many reasons I can't even count them. -  irides centi   (talk to me!)  00:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment on notability. One of the most important things for manufactured pop bands to do is product endorsement. The purpose of bands like this is not to make music but to make money. This is expected from almost any band signed to the Big Four labels, but it's tautological for the boy- and girl-bands that the record companies create out of whole cloth (by picking "musicians", assigning them roles and personalities, putting them into a studio and handing them prearranged music to record). Manufactured pop bands == product endorsements. It's ugly, it's a disgrace to music and art, indeed a stain upon human culture. But it's relevant. — coe l acan — 03:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That's all well and good but it doesn't change the basic problem that THIS ARTICLE IS IN CHINESE! -  irides centi   (talk to me!)  14:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. No assertion of notability. No sources. Completely unverified. As Whpq has pointed out, the encyclopedicness of a topic like this is debatable. In debatable cases, sources to establish independent notability and verify content are particularly important, otherwise an independent article isn't viable. Finally, English Wikipedia articles do need to be primarily in English. My complements to WikiProject Endorsements. --Shirahadasha 23:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.